BATES - AUSTIN, OREGON
A BRIEF HISTORY
(Plus precious treasured memories of those who lived there)
For recent email posts, scroll down the
page quite a ways. They are listed by date.
BATES
- AUSTIN REMEMBERED
Click on the red
unlined title directly
above to read recorded
memories from the book published in 1997 by Sonja and Gary Johns.
(Photos
taken in 1957 by Albert Stone and his daughter Louise Stone Labaugh)
(Click
on photos to enlarge)
http://www.thedashmovie.com/ -
Len Cardwell forwarded this to me.
It's too precious not to post.
TURN UP THE SOUND
Click
here: Dirt Roads - For some wonderful background music while you enjoy
the site - (you'll need to minimize)
Click on the link directly below for easy access to Dr. Mick's Bates/Austin/Grant County
PHOTO website:
Bates-Austin/Grant County Area Photo
Site
You can also access Dr. Mick's photo site by
typing these four words -
Bates Austin Photo Site - into any popular Search Engine. Presently I
recommend using
GOOGLE, because it has
rewarded Dr. Mick's site consistently the most.
Dr.
Mick Watterson, former residence of Bates, has so graciously constructed a Bates-Austin photo site
and blog. Thanks
so much, Mick! What an awesome contribution you and those who have
submitted photos have given to Oregon and the Northwest, as people around the country
(actually GLOBE) are now not only able to visit Grant
Country, Oregon visually from the comfort of their homes, but also go back
in time and take a sip or two of what life used to be like in "them good old
challenging lumber mill days." It is not surprising that many around
the country are hiring you to
build sites for them of their own communities now ... as you have done for the Bates/Austin folks.
Thanks must also go to Dr. Mick's wife, Joyce, who helps pick the wonderful music
selections that accompanies the sites.
We have a BIG SPECIAL request? If you enjoy
Dr. Mick's site ... please take the time to post on his blog. Others care what you think,
and especially enjoy hearing from people they would never hear from
otherwise!
SPECIAL CONTRIBUTION
Gregg Smith has been doing historical
research on various topics of Eastern Oregon over the years, and he has
compiled some valuable facts of the old Austin Cemetery. To check out
his findings, you can click on the following link: Austin Cemetery
Click on the photos below to enlarge.
They were taken in late June, 2008. The photo of Clear Creek is taken off
the bridge. Billie Joe (Raines) George says her mother, Teresa,
planted the gorgeous yellow roses in photo on right. -
(Norm)
Austin from the highway Clear Creek - Former Bates Valley
Telephone Shed - Roses
VIDEO FOOTAGE YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN SEEING
If you scroll down a ways, you'll find a delightful post by Don Endecott.
Don shares that at the age of 8, his father let him engineer a steam engine
locomotive in the Bates - Austin area. Nearly 70 years later, Don was
fortunate to engineer that very same locomotive, and here is some wonderful
video footage of it:
Riding The OREGON LUMBER COMPANY # 7 Shay
Steam Engine Locomotive
Nice website of the Austin House! Click on BLANK
when you visit this Google page. Be sure and
turn your speaker on while browsing through it, and enjoy the wonderful
music. (Thanks, Len Cardwell, for forwarding this).
Here's some beaver watching, fly fishing video footage taken at Magone Lake,
in 2008 also located in the same county where Bates - Austin are located.
Some
Strawberry Lake - Slide Lake
footage
Little Strawberry Lake Falls
footage
High Lake footage
More Slide Lake footage
Footage Norm took in the Bates area in 1992. The quality of
the footage is not all that good because of age deterioration of the
original VHS videotape, as you will see:
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Rare Elk hunting
(Footage taken in the
Bates/Austin area in 1988)
Chet Johns - 1999
Mule Deer Putting On A show - Galena
- 1999
Hawk On The Old Henry Ricco Barn
- 1999
Ukiah - 1999
Note: If anyone has
old video footage of the Bates -Austin area, please contact me about putting
it on YouTube, or so I can link to it, so others can enjoy it. Thanks
- Norm
Email:
norm@precious-testimonies.com
BATES- AUSTIN HISTORY
The Sumpter Valley Railroad
arrived in Austin during 1905. In the beginning, the rails stopped at the
former stagecoach stop of Austin Station. A large sawmill owned by Oregon
Lumber Company was built beside the tracks at Austin. This mill was in
operation during the decade preceding World War I. The passenger trains from
Baker stopped at the Austin House (Austin Station) for lunch which “Ma” Austin
served at her board house. The means were served “family style” in ample
proportions.
From Austin, the Oregon
Lumber Company laid their own tracks into the timber and brought logs to the
big double-sided mill.
Austin was quite a town in
its day, with several saloons, stores and even a jail. The buildings had
false fronts (there was still one these false fronted buildings standing as
late as 1997). It boasted a board sidewalk also. The railroad facilities
included a four-stall engine house, yard trackage and a water tank.
There was a mill called
the Eccles Mill near Austin. This mill was owned and operated by Bill Eccles,
a brother to David Eccles, owner of Oregon Lumber Company.
The town of Austin was
started by a man named Newton. In the late 1800’s Minot and Linda Austin
arrived and purchased the town site, and renamed it Austin. Minot ran a stage
line between Sumpter and Canyon City. Linda ran the general store, hotel and
boarding house. At one time Austin boasted a population of approximately 500
people. * (NOTE:
See footnote below; this paragraph may not be entirely accurate).
In about 1917 the Oregon
Lumber Company built a new double-sided sawmill about a mile down the Middle
Fork of the John Day River from Austin. A company owned town was built for
the mill workers and was named Batesville. Later the name was shortened to
Bates. This mill remained in full operation until October 1975, when a new
mill was put into operation in John Day by Edward Hines Lumber Company, the
owners at that time.
The Oregon Lumber Company
built a large while hotel at the side of the track close to the mill. There
was a dance hall near the hotel, (later a truck barn was built on the sight of
the dance hall, after it had burned down), where many dances were attended by
all. Oregon Lumber Company built logging tracks down the Middle Fork and had
branches up the draws and creeks to supply logs to the new mill. The lumber
was then shipped on the Sumpter Valley Railroad to Baker. The rails were
pulled in the late 1940’s. At this time off-highway logging trucks began
hauling logs in to the mill. They had 12 foot wide bunks and were stacked
close to 20 feet from the ground.
There were other sawmills
in the area which were the Baker White Pine mill on Crawford Creek, the
Stoddard Brothers Lumber Company, later becoming Stoddard Lumber Company, did
a lot of logging in the local area, hauling logs on their own trains in to
their mill in Baker.
Just west of Austin
Junction are the remains of a mill called the Cavenaugh mill, besides Bridge
Creek. A small mill pond is still visible. This mill was built in 1929, but
never sawed a board. The Depression struck and construction was halted.
Bates was tucked into one
of the loveliest valleys in Grant County in Eastern Oregon. It was surrounded
by prime timber, with Dixie Butte (elevation 7592 feet above sea level)
towering over the town. Today – Bates along with its saw mill, its railroad
and all of the people who once lived there– now only exist as memories and
faces in old photos of the former residents.
The technique of logging
in the beginning at Austin and Bates was simple. It involved a lot of hard,
physical labor. In those days of the early 1900’s most types of work did
involve hard, physical labor.
A crew was sent out to
construct the railroad grade, for the tracks to be laid on. The main line of
Eccles narrow gauge railroad followed the Middle Fork of the John Day River
from Bates, eventually going as afar as Camp Creek. All the tracks except the
main line was temporary track. As the crew went out and built the grade,
another crew followed behind laying track. These temporary branch lines went
out into the canyons where the logging was taking place.
The lumber camps came
along with the railroad. The cook shack and dining room were built on
railroad cars, as were many of the dwellings (boxcar houses) the men and their
families lived in.
When an area was logged
out, the lumber camp was dismantled. Much of it was loaded onto the flat
cars, the track was taken up behind the train and the work proceeded to
another area of the forest.
In the beginning, until
the dry kilns were built, the lumber produced at the Bates mill was loaded
green onto flat cars and hauled to Baker, where it was dried in the kilns at
the Oregon Lumber Company mill there.
Over the years as the
industry progressed, much of the work done by the railroad was gradually
replaced by trucks that hauled the logs. By 1935 there were quite a few
trucks in use. The trucks hauled more and more and the railroad less and
less, until about 1946 and 1947 the last rails were pulled up. That’s when
the dry kilns were built.
Over the years the
population of Bates was between a few hundred to as many as 400. As machines
replaced men the population dwindled. At one time there were approximately
125 kids in the Bates School.
Bates was a close-knit
community. Those who lived there were like one big family. It was a great
place to raise kids. Everybody watched out for the kids. To those who lived
at Bates, it was a special place and a special time in their lives.
The past Bates residents
hold a Bates Reunion every two years, in order to renew old friendships and
reminisce about the “Good Ole Days in Bates.” Those days may be gone, but
none of the people will ever forget!
* Norm Note: Gregg
Smith is a historian, and he emailed me the following information on
11-30-2008. Much appreciated:
Some time ago I read
and "filed" some old Grant County deeds and property records. If I
can find my copies I will send them to you to post. Or, if someone
else is interested, they can find them at the Grant County
Courthouse.
What I remember was
that Minot Austin was Mrs. Newton's son. Mr. Newton must have
been her second husband, having been previously married to a man
named Austin. The old maps of the area show the site of Austin as
"Newton's."
It appears that Mr.
Newton died and the property passed to Mrs. Newton. She then
willed the property to Minot. If I recall, she had other children,
whom she each willed $1.00. So - there must have been some hard
feelings. When Mrs. Newton died, Minot inherited the Newton
property. He was married to Linda and they then renamed the
site "Austin."
At some point
Minot joined with some other investors to pursue a business
venture. Gold mining perhaps? Minot secured a loan from a Baker
bank and mortgaged the Austin property as security for the
loan. The investment went sour and the bank foreclosed on the
mortgage. Then it appears that Minot left and Linda stayed behind.
She had a viable stage stop business and made a deal with the bank.
Over time she paid off the bank loan and took full possession of the
Austin property.
Now ... when I was a
kid working for Henry Ricco in the mid-1950s, Henry told me a story
told to him by 'Doc' Edwards -- Linda Austin's brother. Doc had
moved in with Linda to help her, but it was probably the other way
around. Doc was a terrible alcoholic. He 'borrowed' things from
Linda to buy his booze. Henry Ricco, who bought the Austin place
from 'Doc' Edwards after Linda died, found her wedding ring rolled
up in a sock inside a shoe in her bedroom. It was one thing Doc was
unable to "borrow."
In any case, Minot
apparently wrote Linda that he wanted to come back and would be on a
particular stage. Doc met Minot at the stage and pointed a pistol
at him. Doc said to Minot, paraphrasing, "If you step down from the
stage I'll shoot you dead." Minot wisely stayed on the stage and
moved off into history. Both Linda Austin and
Doc Edwards are buried at the Canyon City cemetery.
I spent a lot of time trying to find and get copies of old maps
of our country. Two maps in particular: In 1890, one
map reads that what is now Austin was then "Newton's."
Two years later, in 1892, the map reads "Newton's or Austin's."
So Mrs. Newton must have willed
the Newton property to Minot Austin around 1891 - plus or
minus. There would probably be records of the probate of Mrs.
Newton's will in the Grant County Courthouse. In fact, I'm sure
of it. Some time ago I read her will.
As a side point, the 1890 map
shows the stage lines in Baker and Grant County. The stage trip
from Baker to Canyon City covered 85 miles and cost $10.00. The
stage ran Monday through Saturday and left Baker at 1:30 p.m. I
don't know how fast it moved, and whether one team of horses
could cover the entire trip. Since the road was pretty steep
out of the Whitney valley and over Dixie Butte, I can't believe
they made more than 10 miles per hour average. That would have
put them in Canyon City at 9:30 p.m., I'm estimating? That
seems pretty late. I wonder whether they stopped overnight at
Newton's or Austin's and changed horses? Anyone know?
-- Gregg Smith
Len Cardwell:
Gregg - It was my understanding (Told to me by my Dad, Arthur
Cardwell) that the stage came as far as the Austin House in one
day. They stayed all night there in the Hotel (Still standing
behind the house; 2008). They changed teams also. The teams
were kept in the barn (Still standing) and fresh ones used to go
on the Prairie City.
Regarding the old Austin House: Did you
folks know that there was also a Turkey Farm at the Austin House
when Doc Edwards had the place?
Gregg:
That makes good
sense, Len. The stage road from Baker came up the Sumpter
Valley, and then over the hill to the Whitney Valley, then over
the hill (via Tipton) to the Austin House. Climbing up those
two hills must have been a hard on the horses. I can imagine
that everyone was happy to stay overnight at the Austin House -
and have a great meal at Mrs. Austin's dinning room.
Billie Joe George (Raines): Yep, Len, I knew about the
Turkey Farm, because that was one of my Dad's first jobs;
helping with the turkeys and splitting wood up on Greenhorn for
Sim Richards. Also did you guys know that when my Great Uncle
Vern Raines owned Hobbs Ranch it was a Dairy Farm. Dad used to
milk cows to.
Len
Cardwell 02-16-2009: The railroad
began in Baker City in 1890. It followed the
powder River Through Bowen Valley to Salisbury
(9 miles south of Baker) and continued on to
McEwen. In 1892 a major gold strike was found
near Sumpter and the railroad was extended the
six miles to Sumpter by 1896. In 1900 the track
was laid over Larch Summit, an altitude of 5094
feet, and down the west side of Huckleberry
Mountain. By 1901 the tracks reached Whitney, an
Oregon Lumber Company town. During 1903
the tracks were extended across the Whitney
Valley and up Green Mountain pass to the Tipton
Summit at 5127 feet. The rails reached Tipton in
1904. It arrived at Austin in 1905. In 1909 the
final segment of railway (21 miles) south of
Austin. By June 1910 the tracks descended to
Prairie City. This completed the 80.1 miles from
Baker City.
By 1937 passenger service was
discontinued and the last freight train steamed
into South Baker on 12 June 1947.
This material came from "Sumpter
Valley Railway Mikados - a web page that was
on-line 30 May 2005.
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Note:
Gary Johns has granted me permission to publish on the
Internet all the stories contained in:
Bates - Austin Remembered
... as copies of the book are no longer available.
Thank you so very much,
Gary, for allowing this to happen, as several have asked about how they might
obtain of copy of the book.
-- Norm
Rasmussen
PLEASE SEND YOUR PRECIOUS MEMORABLE
STORIES
I and many others would love to see what Sonja Johns started - continue. I know the challenges one faces at taking on a project
such as what Sonja and Gary took on, both in time and financial sacrifice.
They have my utmost respect for giving so much of themselves into putting the
book together, as well as to all those who took the time to write their
memories to be published.
Sonja passed a few years back, so she no longer can
contribute to what she started. But with the Internet, the love and
energy she gave in trying to capture the rich memories of the past so others
could enjoy them ... can keep going on.
Please email me
YOUR
memorable-humorous-entertaining stories
from the past that involves
the Bates - Austin area, for others to enjoy. Lets keep going what Sonja
started. Bates -
Austin may be ghost towns ... but rich memories are to be treasured for
generations to come by those who love hearing about "The Good Old Wild-West
Days of Bates & Austin, Oregon."
Please send your memories to me so I can post them.
I would guess that many people may fear emailing me -- fearing I might get
"religious" on them. Please know I won't do that to anyone. I
don't mind talking about spiritual matters, but ONLY when or if others bring
it up first. My email address is:
norm@precious-testimonies.com
If you are concerned that your email address will get out to spammers, I
encourage you to take out a Yahoo email address for FREE. Thanks so
much, on behalf of those who will follow in our footsteps!
IMPORTANT NOTICE
Bates State Park Status and
July 2009 Reunion
This is a status
report on the development of the Bates State Park and notice of the July
24–26, 2009 Bates
reunion.
Bates History
David Eccles, John Stoddard and their
partners incorporated the Oregon Lumber Company on August 9, 1889 and the
Sumpter Valley Railway on August 15, 1890. Linda Austin sold the Bates
property to the Oregon Lumber Company on March 19, 1915. John ‘Jack’
Leishman directed the construction of the Bates mill during the first week
of May 1917. The mill began producing lumber during first week of September
1917. The first Bates superintendent and postmaster was Norman Y. Stoddard,
a son of John Stoddard.
The Oregon Lumber Company sold the Bates
mill, equipment and structures to the Edward Hines Lumber Company on
December 30, 1960 – for $1.00. The reason for this nominal sale price is
unknown but perhaps the Oregon Lumber Company was concerned about liability.
The Edwards Hines Lumber Company closed
the sawmill at Bates in 1975. The mill was dismantled. The equipment and
material was sold. The houses were sold to their occupants. The 131-acre
townsite was largely cleared and sold to Henry Ricco, the adjacent ranch
owner. Upon Mr. Ricco’s death the ranch, including the Bates townsite,
passed to his niece, Joanne Ricco Vidondo, the widow of Nick Vidondo. Mrs.
Vidondo then willed the property to her hired man, Fermin Echeverria. When
Mrs. Vidondo died, the ‘Ricco’ property passed to Mr. Echeverria and he
offered to sell the Bates property to Grant County.
Grant County then created a non-profit
entity, the Bates Park and Museum Foundation, with a goal of developing a
county park at Bates. The Bates Foundation, backed by a county
guarantee, purchased the Bates property from Mr. Echeverria with a loan from
the Old West Federal Credit Union. The Bates Foundation was charged with
obtaining private funds to pay off the credit union loan and then give title
to Bates to the county free and clear. However, in its 16 months of
existence the Bates Foundation was unsuccessful in raising funds.
Consequently its officers, who lived in Canyon City, resigned in favor of
Lana Abarr. Mrs. Abarr then appointed Jackie Rapp and Leonard Cardwell to
the new Bates Foundation board. The new officers of the Bates Foundation
transferred the Bates title to the county and the county sold the property
to the State of Oregon Parks and Recreation Department on April 28, 2008,
paying off the credit union loan in the process. The Bates Foundation was
then dissolved on April 30, 2008.
The Friends of Bates State Park
In the place of the Bates Foundation,
which did not represent former Bates residents, we created the Friends of
Bates State Park on March 14, 2008. The ‘Friends’ is a non-profit
organization established to support the operation of the Bates State Park.
The board of directors of the ‘Friends’ is all former Bates residents. They
include: Jackie Rapp, President; Lana Abarr, Treasurer; Leonard Cardwell,
Secretary. Other board members are Rhoda Busby, Gunther Clark, Stella
McCauley, Linda Raines, Marlene Woodley and Charles R. (Rusty) Wright.
The ‘Friends’ will seek artifacts,
memorabilia and financial contributions to support the Bates State Park.
Any money raised by the ‘Friends’ will be reserved for the operation of the
park.
The ‘Friends’ has had several meetings
with officials of the Oregon Parks and Recreation Department to develop a
plan for supporting the Bates State Park. For its part, the Parks
Department is working on a master plan for the development of the Bates
State Park, which is planned to open sometime in 2010. A draft of the
Master Plan will be available at the 2009 Bates reunion. At present bids to
demolish the dry kiln ruin are being evaluated and it is hoped work will
soon begin on the dry kiln demolition, site clean up, grading, road
widening, etc. so that the site will accommodate the 2009 Bates reunion.
Bates Reunion
We plan to have a
dedication of the Bates State Park at 11:00 a.m., Saturday, July 25, 2009
on the Bates site. We hope you will be there. A letter will follow early
next year on the details of the reunion.
If you have the names and
addresses of former Bates residents please send them to:
Jackie Rapp,
P.O. Box 115, Prairie City, OR 97869 ... or e-mail her at:
ajrapp79@gmail.com
Please correct
your name and address if it is wrong on the mailing you received – and
spread the word!
See you at the
reunion!
The Board of Directors of the Friends of Bates State Park
MOST RECENT EMAIL POSTS FROM
HERE DOWN
Some of the posts won't make total
sense unless you read earlier posts scrolling further on down.
Rial Green Update:
7-4-2009: If you have taken the time to read the many posts
that follow, you'll no doubt be blessed by most of the posts Rial
Green forwarded so they could be shared with others. Rial
recently passed into the next life a few ago, and many of us can't be
thankful enough for Rial taking the time to share his past memories and
PRECIOUS humor with us! I'm going to share a few emails I received
from Rial over the last few months, but didn't post, because they were
more of a personal nature. If any of Rial's family objects to my
posting them, please let me know, and I'll remove them. I don't
want this forum to be a source of offense to anyone:
4-1-2009: (Norm's
post to Rial: "We ALL miss your posts. You still able to
punch computer keys? What's happening? How's your health?
- Bates Guy Norm Rasmussen and the REST")
4-4-2009: (Rial's
final email to Norm): You might say I'm a little lazy now. I
hardly do anything now but sleep and take some tasty pills. The Hospice
nurses come to see me once a week and adjust my medications and my body
tries to keep up with the new regimen. I am feeling better now and maybe
I will start writing more. I also need to get into my storage and go
through pictures, of which I have quite a few.
My daughter and her husband wait on me so much and take such good care
of me -- I told them that if they keep up this much care, I just might
decide to keep on living!
All the best, Rial
12-27-2008: I got my results
back. Some good; some not so good. They discovered on the last cat scan
and pet scan I have "Epigastric Mass" Lymphoma. They couldn't see it
before. it looks like a sheet of saran wrap -- transparent until
it wads up and is not hidden behind something else. I asked that
doctor for a second opinion. He said," O.K., You're ugly". I asked my
cancer doctor how long I have. She said, "About three months". I
said, "Doc, I can't pay my bill in that time." She said, "Alright -
I'll give you another three months." The good news is I can't be
given chemotherapy because I have an anourism (sic) and I can't have
surgery because my platelets are too low. So I don't have to do anything
but lay around, which I have found I am good at. My daughter and I are
going to try to dig up more pictures to send about Bates and the Sumpter
Valley RY. Have a good new Year. I am enjoying mine, really!
- Rial
12-24-2008: A
merry Christmas to you and yours. I have been a little lax on sending in
anything lately. My time has been consumed by taking tests and cat
scans. But that is over now so perhaps I will be able to contribute a
little. - Rial
Bates Guy Norm: 5-14-2009: Okay - spring is here.
Folks have put snowblowers and snowmobile suits away and now planting
gardens. It is to be realized that writing Bates/Austin memories
gets to the bottom of the "to-do-list" this time of year ... but the
absence of memories to publish here is making me squirm a little. Okay -
what do I do about it? Tell a memory of my OWN!
How many remember Art Cardwell during school hours and his "apple a day
keeps the doctor away?" He would take out that VERY SHARP
pocketknife of his and slice that red delicious apple so carefully
into just their proper sections. Then he would nibble away at
those apples slices ... all the while reading something or other.
Was it only ME who would lust after one of those slices of of his apple?
I have NEVER had such an impressionable memory imprinted on my brain as Art
and his daily apple. To this very day, while I'm shopping at the
store, and I walk past red delicious apples, I have faint flashbacks of
Art and his daily "apple encounter."
I really don't know if he engaged in that
"apple encounter" every day of the school year, or just when apples were
in season. Would anyone happen to remember?
Juanita Gabiola Moore:
4-23-2009: Congratulations on the terrific web site. I
have enjoyed the Bates site very much. I was just 4 or 5 in 1944 when
Dad moved the family from Bates to Boise, so I have few actual memories
of Bates. However, Dad continued to work there and commuted from Bates
to Boise once a month or so. He worked at the mill from the early
1920's to the early 1950's. If any of you old timers out there have
memories of him that you can share with me, I would appreciate it so
much. His name was Chappo Gabiola. My e-mail address is
Neeter1815@aol.com. Kindest regards.
Sharon Haynes: 4-22-2009:
Some of you may still remember the old Company Ranch down the river from
Bates. Here are some memories I recall about it:
In 1949 there were no realtors in Grant County, so my parents leased the
Company Ranch from John Forrest’s uncle: A 3 -4 year lease. The
buildings had been used for horse logging. The main house floor was
splintered from logger spikes on their boots. There was no electric
power; a hand pump for water, and we had dug for a well for water
supply. We had Aladdin lamps for light, wood cook stove. We tore down
several old buildings; that was part of the lease agreement, to clean up
the place. We ran upwards of 300 head of cows, in the spring we drove
over Dixie camp in the backside of the mill. We milked about 10 cows
for milk and cream. We had four or five chicken houses; we started the
chicks in Prairie City and sold fryers to the Bates people along with
the milk and cream.
One of the chicken houses was on Vincent Creek. It must have been where
the chickens got the gold nuggets in their craw the Bates people found.
I swore up and down I’d never own a chicken for it was my job to clean
the chicken houses. We also sold eggs and butter. I would go to town
(Prairie City) once a week to do laundry and yard work. We had garden
in town, a push lawn mower - no gas mowers then.
My dad was good friends of the OxBow ranch manager. The Oxbow had
Morgan horses so my dad bought me a Morgan horse to ride, a mare. I
rode several times a week. Redney was a very smooth, fast walker.
One summer we had pinkeye in our cattle. We ran them through the corral
once a week for doctoring. The dust in the corral was a foot deep and
it was my job to keep the gas pumps going so to sprinkle the corral to
keep the dust down, at least four pumps.
I fished every day, and my mom made me eat every one for breakfast.
There were several beaver ponds on backside of the railroad bed that had
trout; they were very wild; you couldn’t fish with a pole with eyes; you
had to fish with a long stick and short line.
If there was a cloud of dust in the distance it was a log truck coming
and we’d bet a quarter the number on the truck.
My grandfather started betting a quarter for every sage rat (ground
squirrels) we could kill with a b-b gun. Most of the time the b-b would
just bounce off. I had to share the gun with my cousin. He never got a
rat, but I did, because I figured how to hit them in the head. My
grandfather gave us the money. I am still a good shot with a b-b gun.
I practice with clothes pins on a line.
There is nothing more heavenly that pure quiet, and the fresh smell of
the earth (dirt) when it rains. It’s been a long time since I’ve
smelled that scent that was at Bates.
One summer we put up hay, using the horses. We used a large rope net to
pull up the stacks and I would pull the net off the stack with my horse
and a rope. I was using my uncle’s paint horse. You didn’t dare get a
rope close to it’s hind legs or you’d be airborne. Well, it happened,
and my dad came off that stack so fast it was amazing.
We left our horses there that winter. Twice a week we went and threw
them hay. They fare pretty well in deep snow.
Nobody has mentioned the Chinese artifacts there were buried down
river. People dug them up for several years --- and how about the
people from Sumpter that came over and burned the old gold dredge on the
DeWitt Ranch?
At one time there was a post office on the Dewitt Ranch. When the snow
was so deep - there were gallon cans of coyote bait behind one of the
out houses; it stunk to high heaven. My brother got into it; he stunk
for several days. You could not wash it off and that house could not be
used, the stink was so bad. Later we were told it was bear grease.
There had been several outhouse and we tore them down.
The huge barn had 3 lofts in it; storage for hay in the winter; we never
used that barn.
My dad bought some wild cows; they’d never been worked with. I always
helped out but he didn’t want me in the corral so I was sitting on the
fence this one particular time.
My grandfather had a stock yard near Vale. One time he was visiting at
the house. He had come only to see how things were going. He was good
with a rope, but he couldn’t catch the wild cows either, no matter how
hard he tried.
My dad was on his horse Sunshine. Grandpa walked up to Sunshine, and my
Dad handed him the rope, and fell over dead. He was a true cowman. I
put his picture in our cowboy museum.
I remember a Sumpter train engine at Austin, and they decided they’d
better get it out of there before there were no tracks. There was a
story in the paper about it - the smoke bellowing out of the engine. My
dad helped get it started.
When the water in the river (Middle Fork of the John Day) got real warm
there were eels -- lots of them. Terrible looking things. I imagine
they eat lots of fish. My dad caught a large steelhead or salmon one
time. That fish was so skinny my mom made him bury it in the garden.
We saw a meteorite land in the field one time. We found it and I had it
for years.
I was always looking for agates on Vincent Creek, and one time I found
somebody’s eye balls. I looked at them and looked at them, not
believing what I was seeing. But by dang it, they were eye balls! I
quick stuck them in my pocket.
I couldn’t stand them in my pocket – they sort of gave me the creeps -
so the next day I went back to where I found them; closed my eyes and
spun around and around and let them go. Unless someone ever found them
… two eyes still search for gold day and night on Vincent Creek!
Does anybody remember the nickel stamp mill I think was at Camp Creek?
One of those draws down there was heavily posted: No Trespassing.
I think the owner of the property was Hankins, but not positive.
We had the company Ranch for 8 – 9 years.
I don’t know why Camp Creek sticks in my mind – it was across from the
DeWitt Ranch. That all changed so much – some by the Forest Service –
they closed one of those roads.
Norm Note: Thanks so much,
Sandy, for sharing some of this precious history with us.
Sandy
mailed me a copy of an official OREGON LUMBER COMPANY letter
head. It has a logo of three tree-like objects, with these words
at the top:
LUMBER MANUFACTURERS SINCE 1889
John Day Ponderosa Pine Trim - Mt. Hood Douglas Fir -
Allwood Hardboard Mills at Baker, Bates
and Dee, Oregon
Ponderosa Pine Sales -- Baker, Oregon
Douglas Fir Sales -- Dee, Oregon
Nelson Thompson: 4-20-2009:
I lived in Bates in the middle 1940s. We moved down from Camp
2 and lived in the second house next to the Lee's house on the left
hand side. My father, Lyle Thompson, worked there and my
brothers Bert and Elmer also worked there after the war. I'm
79 years old and my brother Elmer is 88.
I went to the old school up the tracks. Mrs Hickerson was my
first teacher. then I had Mr.Caldwell the rest of the time thru the
8th grade. I started the 9th grade in Prairie City. I
went 3 weeks and quit. I left Bates and went to Ritzville
Washington for awhile, then went to Umatilla, Oregon and worked on a
Dairy Farm until I went in the Navy at age 18. I retired from
the Navy in 1970 and am living in Newport, Rhode Island.
I remember Mr.Caldwell. He was a tough man but a very fair
man. I was back to Oregon one time to see my brothers.
Bert lived in Prairie and Elmer lived in Canyon City at the time.
(Elmer and his wife Jean now live in Mt. Vernon). We drove to
Bates but there was nothing there -- all gone.
Here's some
memories that come to mind of the old Bates days: Dean and
Carl Doe, Jack Howard, Wayne Heaton and I used to walk the logs in
the mill pond to see who would be the first to fall in.
Luckily, none of us ever did.
During school, we used to have to go up and sit on a long bench
in front of Mr.Cardwell's desk and recite. We would sit:
boy-girl-boy-girl; etc., I was sitting on the end and
Barbara Kranenburg got up to read. I bent down to make
faces at her. Mr. Cardwell saw me and told me take my
desk. As I got up to leave, he caught me at the end of his
desk -- grabbed me by the arm and threw me about 8 feet up
against the blackboard, telling me to go to my desk, get my
books and go home. As I got to the door to leave, he met
me there and threw me back to my seat and told me to sit down.
He didn't hurt me physically; just my feelings. But to
this day, I think He was a great man and teacher, in my book.
Another time, all us boys were out in the
big field where a large creek went through. One
place had a deep hole where we used to swim. Of course
we didn't have swim suits so we were all in the raw.
Some kids snuck up on us and stole our clothes - running off
with them. Well, all we could do was get out of the
water and chase them. When we were about 25 feet from
them, they dropped our clothes and ran off. I've often
thought how funny that would have been to have a picture of
that happening! We had a lot of fun as kids at Bates.
Rial Green Update:
4-1-2009
Was
snowing in Bates with snow on the ground this morning. Burrrrrr!
Poor robins have to be pretty depressed.
We
have a small lull in posting Bates-Austin memories the last few days so
I thought I would make mention of something that I may be a bit late
on.
If
anyone who has read Rial Green’s posts and were blessed by them in any
way, I would like to encourage you to fire him off an email, and let him
know you appreciate him. More than likely, he may be in his final
moments of being in his worn out body, and will be taking an extended
vacation to another dimension. He wrote back in mid-winter that the
doctors didn’t give him many more months to live, and he has given MUCH
to this board for the younger generation to receive from in years to
come. Personally, I wish I lived closer to this grand gentleman. I
would be so blessed to spend some time with him in his last days of this
life. I've written him a number of emails over the last few weeks,
and have not heard back from him. If anyone else has, and he's
okay, please let the board know, okay? Thanks
His email
address is:
rialg4719@hotmail.com
(Don on #7: Click on photo to enlarge)
Don Endecott 02-22-2009:
Norm - you asked what my most memorable experience was when I lived at
Bates. My
most memorable experiences would be when my dad, Emmet, and I would go
on a Sunday-together-ride on the # 7 SHAY (steam locomotive), and go to
the wood yard below Bates at Placer Gulch and wood the # 7 up -- get her
ready for the run down the river the next day -- and some times he would
say, "Ok - get over on the engineer's side and run her."
Nearly 70 years ago
... at 8 years old ...
with the throttle in your hand - that was just about as close to
heaven as you could get! But sometimes I would get a little over
exited, and give her too much throttle, and Dad would say it was time
for me to let him run her, and I would go over on the fireman’s side and
pretend I was running her from there. Yes - those were
wonderful memories.
In the summer time,
once school was out, we would stay at the railroad camp in a camp car.
That way Dad did not have a long way to go to be together with his
family, and on a weekend, we would ride to Bates on the # 7. Mom -
my 2 brothers and sister up in the cab heading for town, and Dad pulling
around 25 to 30 loaded log cars for the mill. How special that
was.
On
one particular trip going up the river, Dad hit a soft spot on a fill
and # 7 jumped the track. That in itself would have been no
problem, but on the fill, the ground was soft and the 7 was sinking, and
there was a good chance she could have turned over. But as luck
would have it, Dad heard a logging cat. He made a bee line and got
Dallas Fraser (who was running the cat), and they put a bull line from
the cat to the steam dome on the 7 to steady her up. Then it was
an easy job to use the frogs to get the 7 back on the track. We
got back aboard and went on into town. Just a typical day on the
railroad.
The 7 never was tipped
over. She jumped the track a few times but never hurt anyone.
She is still running in a train park on about 3 miles of track in a
little place called La Porte, Indiana. I went back there in 2007, and they gave me the privilege to once again pull the
throttle of that old girl. It was like I was suddenly in some sort
of time warp ... the sounds ... the smells ... just like it was back
when I was a young boy on 7 when she was at Bates ... and I am sure my
Dad was there with me also.
Here is
some video footage of Don on the # 7 Shay taken in 2007 that you may
greatly enjoy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJBssetM4P4
Don's
Email: rakkason2@comcast.net
Don was born at Austin in 1931. The first time he left Bates
was in 1942. He came back to Bates at different times - ending out
his work career at Bates driving a log truck from 1963 - 1965.
I asked Don if he could share any logging truck memories, and here are
some:
I had a few wild times driving truck there at Bates. I was
hauling logs by train one time up the Dry Fork. It was real steep,
and after you were loaded, it was a wild ride to town. The trucks
had water breaks, so about half way down the hill, you ran out of water.
Then the brakes would get real hot and fade on you, so the rest of the
way off the hill was a control run away.
We were down at Camp Creek. There were steep hills on that run
as well. When the water breaks would fade to nothing, there were
the best drivers coming off the hill. You always knew that the
ones coming up empty would keep out of your way -- except one time a new
driver thought he could make a turn out coming up empty. As I was coming
down loaded, I could not stop, and he was on the inside, so instead of
having a head-on collision, or whatever could happen -- to keep that
from happening -- I put the truck over the bank; dumped the load;
put the truck on her side. To say the least, that was not a good
day, but they sent a cat and loader down, and got me back on the road.
They reloaded the logs, and except for a broken mirror, I was back on
the road again and made a another trip that day.
I can't say enough about the loading crew. They could put a
load of logs on the truck ... if you saw one coming down the road,
you would think: How could anyone put that many
logs on any truck?! We hauled a lot of big loads.
My only bad time was when a good friend of mine, Don King, was killed
behind my truck loading logs. I think about him quite a bit, and
also I had two uncles killed there. One was loading logs, and the
other was unloading logs. Even with all the wonderful times we
had, there were some bad ones to.
Back to trains: Here are some
comments/memories from my brother, Elvin Endecott, you might be
interested in posting for others to read. He passed away last
year, and I know he would want others to be able to have access to them.
This is dialogue between Elvin and Casey Carlson, a fellow train
enthusiast.
My brother Elvin Endecott's
accounts:
I started in 1936 when I was 16 years old, firing
the # 102 laying steel up the river. Pay was 45 cents an hour if I
remember right. I was lucky to get the job as it was still during
the depression. I never would have got it had it not been for my
dad. He started on the Sumpter Valley when he was 15 on the big
cut there in Austin, then he became a brakeman on the Sumpter when he
was 19. He got into some trouble and got fired; then went to work
on the logging roads. He brought the longest train into Bates --
35 ends. And end is two singles, so basically it was two
loads on one car.
I was working out on Camp Creek and # 102 got out
of control - runaway train! I'm telling you ... it's quite a trick to
find a place to jump where you won't roll back into the train when you
are going down a mountain fast and it's at night! As luck would
have it - just before deciding to jump - the last car on the train
derailed, and that drug us down ... and we got things calmed down.
Another time when I was engineering, I was pushing a
couple of cars up to Camp Sheldon with # 104 and I laid her against the
bank. The cars were behind the tender and I was backing up the
hill. We started to go into a curve and I felt the engine start to
lean. I walked over to the middle of the gangway, because I felt
something was going wrong. Jack Frasier had been working on the
track all summer, and he had gotten laid off the day before. I
knew if anything went wrong, they couldn't blame him.
Anyway, the engine started to go over and I told
the conductor to get out, which he did. But my fireman froze in
the door, so I helped him out with my FOOT, and followed.
The next day we came up with the # 102 and the
Cats (Short for Catapillar tractors for you city folk) to pick
her up. They put two Cats above her and one below with cables
attached underneath the tender and the smokebox, I believe. The
Cat below gave a tug and the other two eased her down. The whole
rescue effort didn't last more than ten minutes and the only damage to
the engine was a cracked elbow on her exhaust pipe near the smokebox.
I was on the 102 bringing her back down into camp,
and I told my fireman to go back on the 104. "If she starts
shoving real hard on me, reverse her to help me out." Fortunately
I got 'em both down fine. The 104 ran for another week before
going back to town.
I never killed anyone but my uncle did. He
was bringing a trainload of steel down from Prairie when it got away
from him. There were Japanese riding the cars and one poor guy
jumped off onto a hill and rolled back into the train. A journal
box hit him in the head and killed him.
My uncle got killed at the log pond at Bates.
They were unloading and he unloaded one trip chain, but for some reason
the others wouldn't let go. Even though the hogger said not to ...
he hit the chain with a hammer, and the logs hit him. He didn't
die outright. They put him in a boxcar and hooked the 10 spot to
it and made a run for the hospital in Prairie City. He died the
next morning.
One Saturday my dad, Emmet, had to pull a train
out of the camp we were in. Mom said she wasn't going to wait for
him to come back to do the shopping and so she was going to town.
Dad took the train into the woods. Pretty soon here comes the 104,
and of course Mom knew the crew: she was related to them. They
were going to town, so of course they let Mom ride with them. She
had her little baby in her arms, and the fireman, John Combs, let her
ride his seat. They got to going down the hill - pulling a train
behind them. Pretty soon, my Mom says, "Do you feel her slide?
Plain as day!" The engineer and the hogger didn't say anything.
Pretty soon she felt her slide again, and she said
so. Then the hogger realized they were running away and started
working her in the back motion. They were moving along at a pretty
good clip and the engineer said, "Pick a spot to jump! Make sure
you don't roll back into the train!" To Mom he yelled, "John will
take your baby, but don't jump quite yet!"
After a couple of minutes things slacked off and
he got her under control. It's a good thing too, because Mom wouldn't
have jumped. After that she only rode engines with Dad though!
I was working on the Western Pacific out of
Stockton right after Brooks Scanlon went out of business. My uncle
and I applied for a job with the WP and the next day we got a telegram
to report for work ASAP. This was during the war and all the
railroads were shorthanded. You could quit one job at
breakfast and have another job by lunch.
My first student trip was out of Oroville to
Stockton if I remember right, and it was foggy. The whole crew on
that train wasn't much older that I was. We had a rookie fireman
and brakeman and hogger that hadn't been running more than a year.
I took a seat on the sandbox to watch things. We started out and
everything was going okay until our first meet. We took the hole,
and while we were sitting there the engineer kept looking at his orders,
his timetable, his watch ... over and over again.
Pretty soon he says, "I don't know what the hell I
was thinking! We can make the next siding. Get the gate,
brakie!"
So the gateman got off, threw the switch, and we
started out. We got the engine and part of the train on the main
when all of a sudden the hogger reached up, slammed his throttle shut;
hit the independent and horsed the power reverse over! He really
must have woke the guys in the crummy up. We no sooner got back
into the siding and the brakeman still threw the switch back to the main
... then here comes a train barreling out of the fog! We couldn't
see her headlight until she was right on top of us! That was the
closest I've ever come to dying on a train.
Then of course I've been hurt a couple of times -
probably worst was once when I was wooding up that old # 7. As
soon a business dropped off, the brakie was the first to go. But
when he was there, he helped the fireman wood up on his side, while the
conductor and the engineer wooded up their side. Things had
slacked off and I was loading wood all by myself on my side. I
laid a piece of wood from the ground to the gangway to walk up with my
load of wood. I got this great big armful of wood and start
walking up this piece of wood to walk up to unload my wood and when I
had one foot in the gangway with the other foot still on the wood, the
darn thing broke! I turned as I fell and landed on the corner of
the gangway going into the cab, on my tailbone. Boy did it hurt!
I didn't tell anyone and finished the day. But then it got so bad
I couldn't roll over in the bed. So I went to the Doc in Baker and
he put a ray lamp on it and said I wasn't going to work for a week.
They fixed me up pretty good but when I went into the Navy they said,
"That's some neck you got down there!" Ha, leave it to the Navy.
Then another time we pulled into Big Boulder with
the # 7, and I had my fire built up real heavy for the grade ahead.
For some reason the woods train was delayed so my dad told me to cap
the stack so we wouldn't pop off. I did and I think we ate lunch.
Pretty soon the train of logs came in and Dad said, "Take the cap off
and we'll go." So I went up and PUSHED the cap off across to the
other side. Well - instead of smoke coming out of the stack it was
fire! That burned my arm pretty good but I never pushed it across
again!
I remember once when I was firing the # 100 on
Bear Creek. The hogger, that damn b&%$#@d - his family and mine
never got along, and he decided to take it out on me, the punk kid.
We started up the hill outside of Galena and he had the throttle wide
open and the bar in the corner. I was able to keep up with him on
the steam, but I kept losing water. I told him to ease off or we
would run out of water, because my injector was on wide and and we were
still losing water. He kept going, and when we topped the hill
that plug let go! It sounded like a pop went off in the firebox.
We both knew what had happened and the conductor went back and tied down
all the brakes on the empties, and we started downhill. After
awhile I decided I had better take a look in there and see what was
going on, and it was a good thing I did because those logs were starting
to burn again! I got the tongs and they stopped the train while I
dumped the fire. Then Lou Smith, the master mechanic, came up and
wanted to know what had happened. The engineer blamed it on me and
I was about to get fired, but thank God the conductor stood up for me
and told Lou how I had my injector wide open and the hogger was beating
her so hard it couldn't keep up. He went on to tell how the
engineer wouldn't turn his gun on or ease up. Lou straightened
that engineer out good!
The typical day started out about seven
if we were the day crew. We'd get the engine back up to steam
since the night crew had usually tied up a couple of hours before.
I'd get on and blow her water glass out and test her gauge cocks.
Any dern fool can tell you whether there is plenty of water or not;
steam and water make completely different sounds. After we got up
to steam, we'd blow her down, opening the valve for about two seconds,
then waiting until she settled, and do it again a couple of times.
The Oregon Lumber Co. was real particular about taking care of them
boilers. We washed them out every couple of weeks, but we put a
lot of water in from the creeks. We had a boiler treatment, like
put a cup of this stuff in or throw one of the little balls in after
taking water.
Then we would start out, engine on the
front of the train - tender first, hauling about 15 empties behind us.
The # 7 was almost always the engine since she was the road loco.
It was 23 miles to the nearest reload point. We'd pull in and drop
off our empties, and take the train of logs. We'd take wood and
water at Big Boulder, and the 101 and the 102 would usually couple on to
the end of the train to help us into Bates. We'd usually be doing
fine until we got to the gorge; right across from the DeWitt Ranch we'd
usually hang up. If Dad was in a good mood, we'd buck slack; if
not, we'd double the hill. If we'd buck slack he'd back up to get
slack, then horse the bar over and reef on the throttle - all the way
through the gorge and sometimes up to the meadow at Bates.
Surprisingly, even with all that slack action, we never broke anything.
Then we'd dump the logs into the pond and with the steam shovel.
We brought about 60 cars down every 24 hours with two trains. The
fireman would run the engine and the engineer the steam shovel dumping
the logs.
After we dumped the logs, if we were the
day crew, we'd turn it over to the night crew. If we were the night
crew, and it was winter time we'd pull up to the engine house.
Then I'd fill the firebox with wood clear up to the crown sheet, put on
the injector until it flooded out, and cap the stack. Then I'd get
the heaters going on the injector - you know - close the the overflow
valve (?). Get them going so you could barely hear them "kick" in
the tender. This way things didn't freeze. It wasn't
uncommon to have 100 pounds of steam in the morning and water still in
the glass. It worked real good.
An amazing thing is that with all those
wood burners we had over there and all the trains we had, we never set
any fires. We put a screen on the stack before we left Bates and
that seemed to do the trick. But you had to take them off once in
awhile and beat 'em with a rock or stick to clean them so you could keep
the engine drafting well.
One night I was on the 102 as a helper
going through the gorge and my fireman looked at me and said, "I can't
make no steam no matter what!" I told him, "Well go up and beat
the stack." Well ... the Forest Service superintendant was right
along side us on the road and when we pulled into Bates he said, "I
could have you fired for what you did tonight. Did you SEE all those sparks that came out of the stack when he beat it?!"
Luckily he kind of laughed about it. The Forest Service cleared brush
all summer and burned it in the fall. Evidently whatever they did
worked.
Those locomotive engines had
personalities, I'm telling you! Take the 101 and the 102 for
example. The 101 ran like a top - steamed like a house afire.
The 102 steamed hard and didn't ride as nice. But the 102 had been
wrecked a number of times. Her cab had been replaced and all sorts
of stuff. The two were sisters, but couldn't be more different.
Then the 100 was a real good Heisler. They bought her new and she
was designed pretty good I think. She rode and steamed better than
the 104. Of course the 104 was alright, considering she had been
cut down from standard gauge. Then that little 105 was okay; her
firebox was so small they had to cut special wood for her.
Something you ought to know is that short pieces of wood - like what you
use between the back of your firebox and the end of your cordwood, are
called grousers.
The master mechanic's name was Lou Smith and he
came from La Grande where he worked for UP in the 20's. He really
knew his stuff and kept our engines in good shape. Like I say, we
washed them boilers out every Sunday two weeks apart. Do the tubes
first and work our way back and down. Then close her up and
fill her with water, light the fire and go eat dinner. Come back
and you'd have enough steam for her blower.
Every once in awhile they would have to
take an engine into McKims down at Baker. Dad took the DWP
engines down every once in awhile and I can think of at least two times
he and Claude Green took the # 7 into Baker. One time they did and
my mom and I were supposed to follow them in and pick them up.
Well, it had snowed about six inches the night before and froze so the
roads weren't too good, and we were going over Dooley Mountain.
Mom was driving and of course was a skookum driver since she'd been
living in logging camps and the high country for years. We went
into this one curve that was slightly elevated, and when we did the car
just slid into the snowbank on the inside of the curve. I could
look over mom's lap and down the mountain and it was at least a mile
straight down with not even a tree to stop anything! I told Mom we
had to get out, but she had to get out first because it was my weight
that was holding the car up. So I managed to get my door opened
and stood on the footboard and used the door as a lever while Mom slip
out past me. Once she got out I let go and the car just stayed
there. Pretty soon a fellow came along in a truck and took us into
to Baker.
You know that whistle over there on your
Heisler? Well, I'll tell you about it. The Oregon Lumber Co. bought a
two truck shay, their # 105. That engine was being shipped on a
barge when it fell off into the water, and they let it sit there for a
long time. Finally they pulled it out and they rebuilt her, and
when they did they put a new whistle on her. That whistle was off
a tugboat they were scrapping. Then along about 1938, the Japs
bought the 105, 10, and 103 and a flatcar of old wheels for scrap.
I fired that train into Austin. Anyway, they took the # 105's whistle
off and put it on the 102. When the 102 was sold that whistle went
in a box in the Austin engine house where my brother picked it up when
they were tearing everything down. The bullet holes got there from
a fireman I had one day. He had a .22 and when we were drifting
down a grade he said, "I'll bet I can hit that whistle." I told
him he had better not but BAMM! Idiot did! My brother Don
got it out of the Austin engine house when they were tearing it down.
Yeah - I rode the mallets a couple of
times with Mike Welter, and I remember one time I rode with him on the #
20 out of Whitney. We must have had 20 cars with the 19 on the end
of the train. A. B. Jackson was the engineer, but I can't remember
who the firemen were. I sat on the left hand seat box all day
except to help them wood up and stuff. Mike ran up the first hill
and then switched with his fireman on the second. That way
they both got some rest. He had the 20 loaded up all the way to
the door and he didn't have any trouble at all.
Then when they ran the 250 for the first
time up to Austin they brought the 19 up with her, mainly because they
were scared of that big mallett. But she was just a simple
articulated; sounded just like a doubleheader when she ran.
Beavers and Mike were on the 250 and Jackson was on the 19 if I remember
right. I remember when they came in it caused quite a commotion
that was quite something else with all that power we had up there then.
All that geared power and the rod engines. At first the mallets
were kind of slippery, but they got that fine tuned. The guys just
had to get used to them mainly.
One time I was riding the caboose up
Larch and old Beavers was on the front with 250. She slipped and
all the slack ran in, and then he got some sand under her and got her
back on her feet and yanked all the slack back out. Well, it
ripped the nails right out of the stove! That was some bad slack
action!
The first trip I ever fired was on 102
pulling a camp train out of Whitney. We started out with a cook
car, bunk car, shower car and several others. John Combs was
engineer and we were really clipping along the flats out of Whitney.
I couldn't get my injector started and we were really losing steam.
John was starting to grumble and got his gun on and I started throwing
wood. We started up the hill and about a mile or so later we
slowed down and let the brakeman off to throw us into a siding. No
sooner than had we stopped when here came the 19 poking around a curve
on the passenger. When they saw we were in the clear they whistled
and away they went. If I hadn't got the steam back up as quick as
I did we would have been out of a job!
I spent a lot of time there at Austin,
and when I was young I used to play on the engines there in the
roadhouse. The Prairie passenger would leave as a freight in the
morning, make their run to Prairie with a couple boxcars and whatnot and
a caboose. They would drop them off and pick up the passenger at
the depot and run up to meet the Bates passenger at Bates. Then
they would run back to Prairie and drop off the passenger, pick up the
freight, and come back to Austin. (To be continued ...)
Tom McGinnis 02-21-2009:
A couple of Bates memories come to mind. Do you remember when we
were just kids in Bates, and it was winter and very cold. The snow
plow had pushed all the snow against the garages at the end of our road.
You and I were jumping off the top or the garages into the snow, and my
Dad caught us and took a bunch of willows and beat my back side all the
way home. I had welts for a month.
Then there was the time we shot
our very first porcupine. I think I shot half of a box
of shells through my .22, and I think you shot it with a few
more shells than I did. (The only small animal that was
harder to kill was a Badger). When we killed it, you and I
skinned it, and boy did it stink! We showed him off to
everyone we could in town, and then we put him up in your
back yard where we though it would be safe. Low and behold -
somehow the dogs got it and packed it off. We were going to
use the quills for something or other, but your dad put them
in a box and took them away.
When you think about it ...
what an adventure for a couple of seven year olds. When I
was 10, Dad and I hiked with one of his friends, Mrs. Ford
and a daughter, into Blue Lake above Council, Idaho. Mrs.
Ford kept falling down during the four and a half miles of
the five mile hike, and ended up braking her leg. So a
one day trip turned into an overnight stay. We had no
food, so I make three lean-twos against the rocks and built
up a big fire, while Dad (Fred) went hunting. He found
a porcupine, which he killed and skinned and tried to tell
me it was a rabbit but, I remembered the smell from our
encounter at Bates!
The next morning we tried to
get the fish to bite and they would not, so Dad said we
would use "lead sinkers." We went down to the spillway and
saw the fish swimming, so Dad took out his .38 Special and
told me to strip down - which I did - and he shot the fish.
I swam out and got them so we had something to eat. We cut
them and roasted them on a willow, and I could not believe
how good fish could taste when you are really hungry. We
made a litter and packed Mrs. Ford out, which took all day
to cover the five miles.
Do you remember the time that
your Brother Floyd and one of his friends were with us, and
we were going along the creek bank and found a green spear
head, and a yellow arrowhead, and four obsidian arrowheads
-- and Floyd said he would take care of them -- and I was
wondering if you ever saw them again. For me this started a
desire to collect Indian artifacts. I have a large
collection or old octagon barreled rifles. Some were owned
by Indians, and are quite nice. .38-55 caliber is one.
I have spears, bows, tomahawks, beads, grinding tables and
stones. I also have a large collection of swords. This all
started with that simple day on the river. I can tell that
I must be getting old with all of the stories that are going
through my head of the past.
Tom: You think YOU must be
getting old?! I don't remember us finding those
arrowheads period! Have no idea what brother Floyd
might have done with them. I'll ask him next time I
talk with him. What do you figure they might be worth
on Ebay? I could donate the proceeds to the Bates
Friendly Park fund - Norm
Richard (Dobie) Shoun
02-14-2009:
(Email to Dr. Mick that Richard gave his permission to post):
Dr. Mick - I'm not sure if you remember me, as
it's been a few years since we've seen each other. We went to High
School together, although you were a grade ahead of me. I just wanted to
contact you as I found this web site you've set up with pictures and
articles of Bates and the surrounding area's. I'm just blown away with
what you have done. It brings back so many memories growing up in
Prairie City and going to Bates during High School, until the mill was
closed with the town being dismantled. Those days will always be some of
the best times of my life growing up over there. All the Bates kids
(especially the girls) I went to High School with and there parents who
always were so supportive, and made you feel like part of the family. If
I ever had a time of my life I'd like to re-live ... it would be then.
I have been living in the Tualatin (Oregon) area
just south of Portland ever since I graduated from the University of
Oregon in 1976. I've raised two children and still reside here until my
wife retires from Xerox and then we will be relocating to Bend where I
have my business. In the meanwhile, I've never lost my connection with
Eastern Oregon, as I'm over there as often as I can.
I just purchase our old home back I was raised in
last year. It's just down the street where I was born, so my roots are
well planted there. The house is next to Greg Smith's grand parents home
where he was raised. I remember Greg when he lived there. I got to talk
to him at the 2005 class reunion. I see he's been quite involved with
what's been going on with the Park and has some very interesting
articles and pictures about the area.
When I go home, I always take a ride over Dixie to
Bates. I like to walk the site and just enjoy the surroundings as
I did growing up. Every once in a while I will run into someone I knew
and we'd have a great conversation about the past. I'm hoping I'll
run into Norm, as I see he's been there a lot over the years.
I'm looking forward to the reunion this summer
(2009). The Park will be nice when it is completed. I'm just sorry it's
taken so long, as a lot of the
people who live there are no longer with us, and it would have been
great for them to enjoy it.
I wanted to mention - I have some pictures I would
like to send you. They are of different things that went on in Grant
County. Also, my older brother "big Mike" took movies of Bates and
surrounding area when he worked there. I have contacted him to send them
to me. These were taken in the late 60's and early 70's. I will get them
converted to DVD's or whatever you need, so you can add them to your web
site.
I look forward to many more good times in Bates
and will get back to you soon. (Richard: So will many be
excited about seeing YOU! Thanks so much for writing! - Norm)
Richard (Dobie) Shoun
Email: richard.shoun@verizon.net
Gregg Smith: 2-9-2009:
Rial - do you know anything about a CCC camp that was located near
Bates?
Rial Green: 2-9-2009:
The CCC camp was near the junction about a mile west on the road to
Baker. Clinton Fanning was very young then so he probably does not
remember it. A lot of the local boys joined up there. Most of the boys
were from western states and locally. Army officers were in charge of
the camp. A little later a camp was established down the river from
Bates at a place we called Desolation - which was very wild country and
a good place to hunt. The men sent to that camp were from the streets
of New York and Chicago. They were a wild bunch; according to some of
them, one of their party tried to rob the mail car between New York and
Chicago and was jailed in Chicago. They were put on the Sumpter valley
passenger train in Baker to go to Bates and then loaded in trucks to go
down the river. On their way from Baker City to Bates they were having
fun; they depanted one guy and threw his pants out the back. He pulled
the emergency cord and the train stopped and waited for him to go back
and get his pants.
When the train pulled into
Bates, some of them were riding on top of the engine, tooting the
whistle and ringing the bell. The train crew was glad to get rid of
them. None of them had been out in the woods so us kids told them that
where they were going to Desolation, they would be around cougars and
bears and they worried about the animals a lot. Tthese tough kids could
have fought a grizzly with a switchblade they were so tough ,,, and we
had them scared of mountain lions, etc!
The local CCC boys worked around our area building trails and fighting
forest fires and some buildings for the forest service. All of the CCC
boys only got $35.00 per month, of which they had to send $30.00 home to
their folks, so they had only $5.00 for tobacco and stuff at the camp
Post exchange for themselves. The $30.00 helped many families get by
during the depression. Some of the families had jobs and would send the
$30.00 back to their sons. They were the lucky ones who had money to
spend.
We saw a lot of them at our local Saturday dances, The girls liked
them a lot but there some fights with the locals.
Bates Norm Guy: 2-6-2009:
It's been rather quiet here for a spell so I thought I'd post a story
someone sent me. I don't know how true it is, but strange and
amazing things have been known to happen from folks who once lived at
Bates.
The story is titled:
"OLD BLUE"
A young man
who reportedly lived in Bates at one time went off to college. Half way
through the semester, he foolishly squandered all his money.
He called
home. "Dad," he says, "You won't believe what modern
education is developing. They actually have a program here on
campus that will teach our dog, Ol' Blue
how to talk!"
"That's amazing," his Dad said. "How do I get
Ol' Blue in that program?"
"Just send him down here with $1,000" the young man says. "I'll
get him in the course."
So, his father sends the dog and $1,000.
About two-thirds of the way through the semester, the money again
runs out. The boy calls home.
"So how's Ol' Blue doing son?" his
father asks.
“Awesome, Dad; he's talking up a storm!" he answers. "But you just
won't believe this. They've had such good results they have
started to teach the animals how to
read!"
"Read!?" exclaims his father, "No kidding! How do we get
Blue in that
program?"
"Just send $2,500. I'll get him in the
class."
The money promptly arrives. But our Eastern Oregon hero has a problem.
At the end of the year, his father
will find out the dog can neither talk, nor
read. So he shoots the dog.
When he arrives home at the end of the year, his father is all
excited. "Where's Ol' Blue?
I just can't wait to see him read
something and talk!"
"Dad," the boy says, "I have some grim news. Yesterday morning …
just before we left to drive home, Ol'
Blue was in the living room ...
kicked back in the recliner, reading the Wall Street Journal ...
like he usually does. Then he
turned to me and asked, "So, is your daddy
still messing' around with that little redhead who lives in John
Day?"
The father exclaimed, "I hope you shot that son-of-a-#%@&# before he
talks to your Mother!"
"I sure did, Dad!"
"That's my boy!"
The former Bates lad went on to be a lawyer, and word has it that he
went on to become a politician in high places.
Gregg Smith:
For many years people would drive up the road above the
Bates spring on the south side of Knuteville and dump
their trash alongside the road. (You could follow that
road all the way to Phipps Meadow.) Later they would
dump their trash over a rocky cliff just north of the
"Y" (Called the AUSTIN INN now) on the Bridge Creek
side.
If you would go up the road
to the ridge top above Oz White's (on Clear Creek), you
would find that the oldest dump was up there on top of
the ridge. The road casually snaked along the ridge to
the "Y." I think they moved the dump from that location
because getting up that steep road beside Oz White's was
difficult in the winter, or when the road was muddy.
Len Cardwell:
Do you remember there was a flat field right in back of
that "Y" dump site that was a baseball field? You had
to turn in beside the "Y," or go just around it and up
the hill. We used to put signs up at the "Y" so people
could get there. We had a big wooden backstop built.
Most of the players were older high school kids and some
just out of school. One of the pitchers worked for the
State Highway Dept. He threw side arm and was a very
good pitcher. We called him Spider. Jack Reid was
another pitcher. I played first base - same as in high
school. I played on the Bates town team in 1954 and
1955, and we had our home games there. We had a good
team and played Unity, Herford, Prairie City, John Day
and Seneca. The beer flowed after each game.
Bates Guy Norm:
There were wild cats at the dump that kept the mice
population thinned out. I'll bet you never
remember ever seeing a mouse at the dump, did you?
Some guys would shoot at those cats, so the kitty-cats
became very weary when a person showed up. If you
carried a gun ... those cats could go from 0-60 MPH in
less than 5 seconds across the top of trash to find
their escape tunnel.
Billie Jo
George: When they widened the highway to
Prairie City in the 1990's, they dumped all the big rock
and dirt on top of the dump and buried it.
Bates Buy Norm:
God rest the souls of those poor kitty-cats that were
hiding deep in their escape tunnels when it was being
covered over with tons of debris. Mice don't have
souls, so no need to grieve for them.
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Dr. Mick W:
12-17-2008: After reading the memory posts on
this site and performing maintenance on Bates Photos, I'm
convinced that we lived in the "best days". We may have
been poor in terms of income, but we were indeed rich in
terms of faith and moral compass. America may have a
future...a future that is at best ill-defined. I do know
that America had a past...a past that was fun with a flame
that illuminated a bright future. America's flame, over
time and incompetent leadership, has been extinguished. I
fear we now walk in darkness. Well, so much for my
philosophical diatribe this evening. I just want you to
know that I truly value the friendship of the constant
presence of so many of you in these difficult times.
Norm response:
Dr. Mick: I believe the secret
to solve America's problems lies in the wisdom of the
Friends of Bates State Park Committee. However, wisdom is
not to found down there where they sit up easy chairs under
RV awnings, sipping icy-cold Orange Crush, munching on
peanuts and tator chips. One must climb up the hill and sit
smack dab on the top of Big Rock, and wait for wisdom to
descend from above. Sometimes one must sit there a long
time before it downloads, but eventually, it will come.
(Tip: Take a roll of
toilet paper with you when you go up there, in case of any
delay. Pine cones are neat to look at, and make fancy
artwork out of, and that's ALL!).
Dr. Mick W: 12-17-2008:
Billie Jo ...You asked
in an email yesterday if I remembered the large swings near your
home in Knuteville. Absolutely, and as I recall, it was very
large with a total of three single swings on one "A" frame. I
remember playing on that swing many times and was sorry to hear
that it was torn down one Halloween. It was a gathering place
for many Bates & Knuteville kids…we would spend many hours
there. I also remember playing baseball in the cow pasture. I
rounded third many times while dodging a number of fresh cow
pies.
No problem sliding into Home
Plate...provided you found the right cow pie and then timed it
perfectly.
Norm comment:
Dr. Mick ... I think more people would watch Professional
Baseball if the players had to dodge cow pies like WE did!
Shucks - running the bases ... ANYONE can do (who has the
ability to run, of course). But dodging cow pies without
getting thrown out ... now that requires
GREAT
skill! Speaking of cow pies ... my dear departed mother
grew some of the best tasting strawberries there in Bates I've
ever tasted. But she had a "secret" that I will now
reveal. She would make her children go out into the cow
pasture/baseball field and scoop up the oldest cow pies to mix
them in the garden soil. Fertilizer from a bag or can wasn't
even a consideration on her part. Of course, us kids who
were assigned this task REFUSED to scoop up cow pies during the
daylight hours, for fear of what our friends might think.
Thus we scooped cow pies covertly after dark. The
difficulty in all this was that one had to be very, very careful
while walking in the dark to NOT step in a freshly deposited cow
pie. If that happened, which it did from time to time, one
found oneself looking up at the stars very quickly.
Yep - we had many challenges to
overcome while growing up in Bates. Personally, in
learning the skill of dodging cow pies in the dark, it kept me
from stepping on mines in Vietnam. As one develops one's
sense of smelling a fresh cow pie in the dark before stepping in
it - one also learns to sense a nearby landmine before stepping
on it. Landmines you can't smell, but you can learn to
pick up the faint odor of sweat molecules from the person who
placed the mine there, hoping it wouldn't blow up in their face.
I sent an email to the Top Dog
commander in Iraq awhile back, offering my services in helping
conduct courses in teaching our troops how to detect fresh camel
poop in the dark for the purpose of learning how to hone one's
smelling capabilities to thus avoid driving over landmines, but
I've yet to hear anything back on the matter. Least I gave
it the old Bates try ...
Norm: 12-16-08:
I must confess that I get a bit "pushy" with certain people who
dare to email me, asking them to share old memories, and Billie
Jo George (Raines) happens to be one of them, bless her heart.
Here is a short email from her, and I'll respond to her
following it.
Billie Jo:
You are always wanting us to remember ... here's one for you ...
something I bet you both (Dr. Mick) have forgotten. How
much fun did you have at the old swing that was across the road
from our house? (By the telephone house). You know - the
giant one that someone pushed over on Halloween one year and it
never got replaced. I remember you guys used to put a long
board through the ropes that held the individual swing sets and
the whole town of kids could set on it and swing.
Norm answer:
Wow - BJ - you are correct. I had totally forgotten about
that old swing! That swing brought so much happiness to so
many kids, didn't it? How terrible it was the swing got
wrecked too. I remember that particular Halloween.
The youth out that night were filled with the devilment, and I
was along with them, I'm ashamed to say. I remember the
swing going over, and I remember someone sort of got hung up on
it somehow, and was hoisted into the air briefly. I don't
remember who that was now. Out-houses got tipped over that
night; roadblocks got put in the road to keep the school bus
from going to Prairie City the next day; a group put a Willie's
Jeep OVER the fence and onto the lawn near the grade school flag
pole, and the night ended out in a gang war of sorts. I
don't remember who all it was that remained, but some of the
guys got into a fight, and I think once that happened, everyone
decided they had better go home and cool down, because things
were getting way out of hand. Now BJ, the question IS ...
were you home behaving that night, handing out goodies to
the little kiddies who knocked at your door, or were you out
with the local Bates "terrorists" that night, ripping up the
town?
BJ answer:
I don't know; do you
remember what year it was? There was one Halloween I didn't get
to go Trick-or-Treating, because I had hurt my leg when I fell
across the ditch going to school. Mom and Dad took me to
the doctor in John Day, who sent us to some quack in Pendleton,
who told them I had polio, so I spent that Halloween confined to
a wheel chair. I spent all that year either in that chair or on
crutches. Then Dad got mad at the doctor in Pendleton and took
me to a different Doctor. All it was, was a very badly torn
muscle in my leg. With a little therapy and exercise, it
started to heal. I got off the crutches the day school was
out, and came down with the 3-days measles the next day.
Needless to say, I was not a happy camper. All I wanted to do
was go outside and play.
Norm answer:
I'm guessing that particular Halloween was around 1959 - 1962.
Bummer with what happened to you and that quack doctor in
Pendleton, BJ. What say next Halloween we go to his
gravesite and spit Copenhagen 'bacca juice on his tombstone?!
Gregg Smith
response: For you kids, I remember the board
swing at the Bates school. The board was about 5' or 6'
long. One kid would stand on each end, holding onto the chain.
Then they would pump. Three or four kids would sit in the
middle. Of course, sitting in the middle you had zero support.
As the 'pumpers' would take the swing higher and higher the
sitting kids were at their mercy. I remember sitting on the
board and being terrified that I would fall off.
More questions to Rial:
12-07-08:
Do you remember any bear and/or cougar stories from the
Bates/Austin days?
Rial:
A man named Carl (last
name forgotten) had a couple of logging horses in an old garage
up the road from Bates about 1/2 mile. He asked Cowboy Busby
and me to take them to the trough set up in front of the Bates
store and service station for the winter .. and water them.
While we were gone, he climbed up in the brush across the road
from the temporary barn and Marion Busby (Cowboy's younger
sister) sat in front of the barn in a buckboard. When we
came back, riding the horses, Carl started shaking the brush and
had Marion shout out: "IT'S A COUGAR - IT'S A COUGAR!"
Cowboy and I tried to get the horses to run but they just poked
along. We were about to get down and teach them how to run when
Carl came out laughing. He had constantly told us cougar
stories and had us spooked.
What he was using as a barn had been a garage for two or three
cars. Chet and Rocky John's parents had just the month before
bought a new Model A ford sedan. At the time, it was a
beautiful car. Some other fellows had an older car in the garage
and were gassing it up with a gasoline can when it caught fire
and burned up the John's new car. They got their car out but
the John's car was in gear and they couldn't push it out. Later
I found in the ashes a funnel with a cigarette butt stuck in it.
They must have been smoking as they poured the gas and dropped
the lit cigarette from their mouth.
More
questions to Rial:
12-06-08:
Did you ever do much fishing while you lived in the Bates-Austin
area?
Rial:
We fished a lot in the
river, and Clear Creek. During the steelhead run and the
salmon run all the men and boys gigged salmon, which later
became unlawful. We fished in Strawberry lake, Olive lake and
Magone Lake, over by Prairie City.
One time we were camped at the campground one mile from
Strawberry lake, and a State Policeman parked there and walked
up to the lake to check the fishermen. One of our party had a
car bomb which we wired up in the cop's car. When he came back
from the lake, his engine was missing and when he raised the
hood, the bomb went off. We laughed so hard! Ge got mad
and slammed the hood down and took off with the car still
missing on one cylinder. Every one told me to get in the tent or
he might arrest me, but I couldn't get up; I was laughing so
hard.
More questions to Rial:
Where did everyone swim who lived there? Any memorable
experiences?
Rial:
We used a beaver dam, or sometimes built our own dam out in the
field. One summer, a small circus came to town, and there were
several big strong black men workers, putting up the tents, etc.
We told them about our swimming hole and several of them came,
and we all went swimming naked. We didn't know it but the women
in the row of houses next to Clear Creek could look out the
kitchen window and see naked white kids and black men running
around in the field and diving in the water. What a thrill for
all those housewives!
Another time Eileen Endicott's brother rode his horse down from
Austin. He had a .22 rifle with him, and he unloaded the gun,
and they were playing-like shooting boys diving in. After
awhile he reloaded the gun and one of the girls didn't know the
gun was loaded, and as Chuck Porrit dove in, she shot him in the
stomach. He got hauled to the hospital in Prairie City and was
in there a couple of weeks. He said that was the best time he
ever had; they gave him all the ice cream he wanted. He survived
that and grew up to be a big strong man.
My Dad wouldn't let me play with guns. I was taught never to
point a gun at anyone even if it was unloaded. I had my first
gun when I was 9 but could not take it out without one of my
parents until I was 12.
Norm questions to Rial:
12-06-08: What did people do there for amusement
- entertainment? I'm assuming they had dances now and then.
What were those dances like? Who played music? Was there a lot
of drinking going on; women chasing; men fighting? Were
children allowed to attend? Was New Years a typical time to
have a blow out dance party, like it always was when I lived in
Bates from roughly 1953 - 1966?
Rial: We had
frequent dances. Mrs. Kranenburg played the piano. Her
youngest son, Franz, played the sax, Mrs. Darrow played the violin,
and Clarence ( a memory lapse here) played the guitar. Quite
good music for dancing. We also had many house parties. Many
people played cards, especially the older folks.
One year when the AFL was trying to
organize, some of the company men started our own private union to
keep out the AFL. We paid 50 cents a month for dues. After quite
some time, the AFL was able to overcome this company union so we had
a meeting to decide what to do with all the 50 cents dues we all had
paid in. The married men voted to split up the money, but we single
men had more votes, and we voted to have a party. So all the women
in town saved up fruit juice to which was added 5 gallons of grain
alcohol, and we had 5 gallons of whisky and 17 cases of beer.
The juice drink was very potent - causing some people to get
aggressive and others to get dreamy. I was one of the dreamers.
Most of the men wore suits to these affairs, although some never
wore a tie with their suits. One man, Paul Carp - a nice young
man with a nice wife - walked in and Paul drank one tumbler of the
juice and fell over immediately ... so we carried him out to his
car.
At midnight, the ladies served
midnight supper and we formed circles on the dance floor with a case
of beer in the middle. By that time Paul Carp had recovered
and came back in and sat in our circle where his wife was sitting.
She was a little tipsy, and after he sat down, she poured a bottle
of beer on his head. They were both giggling and he rolled around
on the dusty floor with his new suit and got all muddy. Later
some men were fighting outside, and with a bottle of beer in my
mouth, I walked out and someone threw another bottle and hit my
bottle. I still have a chipped tooth but no other damage.
All I can say it was some party; even
some of the women fought -- pulling hair -- and we would take them
out and put them over the railing and into the swampy ground to let
them cool down.
By Monday, everyone went back to work
and all was normal and forgotten. At some dances we had square
dances like the old West and one man who knew how to call the moves
took over. At some house parties a few of us would go and steal
chickens and the wife of that house would cook up a nice chicken
dinner.
When a couple got married, we had a Shivaree; pounding on tubs or
garbage can lids until they invited us in for drinks. It was a
hassle for them sometimes but a lot of liquor was consumed.
Sometimes - I have heard of - they would kidnap the groom or
bride to foul up the first night for the couple, but we didn't do
any thing like that.
After the dances, us kids would pick up the empty flasks and sell
them to the bootleggers and get spending money. When our best
bootlegger, Kilgore, came to town in his Limo, you could hear
bottles and jugs rattle all over town as the kids ran with a sack of
flasks and gallon jugs to sell. He was the largest bootlegger, and
had his operation down the river from Bates. Big trucks came
by at night, bringing in grain and sugar and trucks came by at night
hauling whisky to Portland and Seattle. The revenuers never
bothered him. His whisky was the best; it tasted just like Jack
Daniels Tennessee sour mash which I think is the best in the world
surpassing Canadian Club. As a matter of fact, I happen to have a
bottle of Jack Daniels by my desk and have a little sip now and then
to remind me of the good old days!!
Norm Rasmussen:
12-06-2008: (My email to Rial Green): Were
you around when they put up the three smoke stacks at the Bates
mill? That had to be quite an undertaking of putting up that
tallest one. Do you remember anything about the project?
Rial Green:
(Rials's reply):
I watched some when they put up a stack.
It was put up from the inside - a 1/2 section at a time. Therefore
you couldn't see the workers since they were inside the stack.
When Gardiner started building a mill
up the track near the Hobbes ranch, they tried to put the stack
together on the ground and tried to raise it in one piece. It
didn't work; it fell and got mashed a bit. However, he went broke
and the mill was never finished; it just sat and rusted.
Gardiner was an old mill man. He had supervised the building of a
mill in Austin before I was born. He set a record one year by
putting out lumber from the stump to the lumber coming out of the
mill and onto rail cars for $19.00 a thousand board feet. Wages were
pretty small then.
We lived in Whitney for awhile; the Oregon Lbr. Co. built a mill
there and I think some of the old building still remains. The
workers worked 10 hours a day for 22 1/2 cents an hour. They
went on strike and got a 2 1/2 cent raise, making 25 cents an hour.
I think this was about 1929 or 1930. Of course that wage was
for common labor; skilled labor was more. I have a book:
Ghost Towns of the West, and
there is a picture of the old mill building.
After I returned from the Air Force in 1945, I worked for a time for
Ellingson Lbr. Co. in Unity, Oregon. The mill had a single stack and
a man took a contract to paint the stack. He got his chair up very
early so no one would know how he got it attached to the top of the
stack, but I think he sent it up somehow on one of the cables which
held the stack up. He started at the top of the stack and painted
down. We were operating the mill at the same time so the stack was
pretty warm. He would come down for more paint and sit for a
bit with his feet in the mill pond to cool them off. What was
considered about a 2 or 3 day job, it took him almost two weeks. If
the day was nice, he would go up and look around and come down and
go fishing. If he had finished in a 2 or 3 day period. he would
have made quite a lot of money, but by the time he finished, he had
made not much more than we made working in the mill. He travelled a
lot and enjoyed life and didn't worry about the money; living alone
in a tent attached to his old pickup.
Billie Joe George: 12-05-2008:
(My email to Rial Green): Good Afternoon Rial. How
are you today? Norm and I were emailing and he asked me about
Hobbes Ranch. I don't really know that much about it other than
Uncle Vern Raines owned it once and had dairy cows there. What can you
tell us about it?
Rial Green: (Rials's
reply): Tom Hobbes had the ranch long before Bates was built.
Even after Bates was there he would still walk to Austin to get his
mail. Anyway, some con men had gotten Tom to invest in an oil well
in Texas, which was a scam, but he believed in them. He thought he
would be very rich. Sometimes they would send him a check and I
remember he would get my Dad to haul him to Prairie City to cash it and
stock up on groceries. Many times the check hadn't been signed and
he thought they had forgotten to sign it, so he would send it back and
tell them to re-invest it. Sometimes my Dad would pay for his groceries.
Those people got every cent he had and he borrowed money from your
uncle Vernon against the ranch. He owed Vernon $12,000 and Vernon
carried him a long time when he couldn't pay it back. Finally Vernon and
his wife were forced to take over the ranch. We used to visit them
there. They told old Tom that he could live upstairs for as long as he
lived and could eat his meals with them. This worked for some time but
then old Tom 'kinda went off his rocker. He would get pine limbs that
were pitchy and make them into torches and put them up around upstairs
for light. Vernon and Mrs. Raines were afraid he would catch the house
on fire and burn them all up, so they finally had to get in touch with
the Sheriff.
At that time we were living on the summit of Dixie. A rancher from
Prairie City named George Velvin would butcher a beef every week and
when he got to the summit, he would hire me to drive his new Ford pickup
to all the camps and Bates and Austin. He always had a jug of wine he
drank all day, which is why he needed a driver. One day we were in
Austin selling meat and Sheriff Hazeltine asked George Velvin to go to
the Hobbes ranch and get old Tom to come out and show him some of the
property markers. Old Tom had a .22 rifle upstairs and wouldn't let
anyone come up there. So George and I went to the ranch and George got
Tom to come out and the sheriff and a deputy went in and got the gun.
Then they took old Tom to what they called the "poor house" three miles
from Baker, where they had other old people who were homeless or
half-crazy. Old Tom died there about two months after he was put in
there. The old people in there didn't seem to last long in there. Your
uncle Vernon was really sorry about that but he had no choice. They
would have been burned up otherwise.
We all liked old Tom. He was a good old man, but he still believed
in those crooks who fleeced him out of everything. It was sad for all
who knew him. Have a nice holiday - Rial
Norm Note: Gregg
filled in a few facts from Rials above post. Gregg quotes Rial,
then types in purple his inserted facts/commentary. Thanks, Gregg!
Gregg: Tom Hobbes had the ranch long before Bates was
built.
1917
Even after Bates was there he would
still walk to Austin to get his mail. ....up
until 1919 when Bates got it's own post office.
Those people got every cent he had and
he borrowed money from your uncle Vernon against the ranch. I
remember in the early 1950s people talked about Mr. Hobbes and how
he would come to the post office every day waiting for his big check
- which never came.
Vernon and Mrs. Raines were afraid he
would catch the house on fire and burn them all up. So they finally
had to get in touch with the Sheriff.
Question:
Was Vernon a Raines or a Reynolds? I thought the last people who
owned the Hobbs ranch before the Riccos bought it was a Reynolds
family. (But I could easily be wrong.)
At that time we were living on the
summit of Dixie. A rancher from Prairie City named George Velvin
would butcher a beef every week and when he got to the summit he
would hire me to drive his new Ford pickup to all the camps and
Bates and Austin. He always had a jug of wine he drank all day which
is why he needed a driver.
George Velvin was
English. His son, Tom, took over the ranch and ran it into the
ground. People used to laugh at his hay stacks. Tom didn't take
care of his dad and I think there was a sad ending - but I can't
remember the details now. Eventually Tom had to sell out. He moved
to the coast, where he bought a bowling alley. I doubt that worked
out well.
We all liked old Tom, he was a good old man but he still believed in
those crooks who fleeced him out of everything. It was sad for all
who knew him.
The old 'poor farm' is
still standing. It is in a gully on the left side going into Baker
from the south. I'm sorry to hear the end of Mr. Hobbes' story but
in my research on death certificates in Baker and Grant county
there is information on lots of old single men who died in their
cabins of starvation, illness or suicide. It was a tough time.
We need to be grateful for the lives we have now.
Gregg
Gregg Smith: 12-03-2008:
Dr. Mick posted a picture of Art Cardwell and son Len when Len was
very young. Turkeys everywhere - everywhere!
Some people may not know that turkeys were a major industry in
Eastern Oregon in the 1930s (and perhaps 1920s). The Ricco
brothers got their ranching start raising turkeys on the home place up
Dixie Creek. My Dad spent part of a summer on a turkey ranch in
Drewsey, until he developed tick fever. I think Mr. Wishard in
Prairie City got his start with turkeys.
And.....for what it's worth,
there are now quite a few wild turkeys in Eastern Oregon. I saw
a large flock this past summer in the meadow on McNamee Gulch on the
1035 road from Tipton to Greenhorn.
Billie Joe George: 12-02-2008: When I was little, Dad
used to raise pigs up behind Newtville where Immose's log cabin was.
We lived in Grandma Raines house then. They all used to tell the story
about one old pig that had 33 babies. Mom would laugh about how
they kept the ones the mom couldn't take in boxes around the stove to
keep them warm. And they would rotate them at feeding time,so that
all would get some natural milk. She said they did a good job of taking
care of them; they only lost 6 out of the 33.
I was thinking today ... as you guys are
always talk fall and hunting. I always had another reason for looking
forward to fall. That was when Dad would make his Homebrew and
Root Beer for the winter. We would gather the brown stubby bottles
all spring and summer, then when fall came Mom and us girls would get
them all washed up and sterilized. Dad would start mixing up
the family's winter refreshment. It would set in the cellar for about
three weeks, I think, in the crocks covered with cheese cloth.
Then the fun day would come -- bottling day. Out would come the little
hose and the boxes of bottle caps and the funny little thing that
pressed the caps on. Then on its side it would lay on shelves in the
cellar until it was ready to drink. Every once in awhile you would hear
small explosions in the cellar when one blew up. Winnie (Sterling)
Smith always said it was the best home brew around. Not too long before
she passed away she sent me the receipt that Dad had given her. We
still have all of that stuff.
Norm response: Billie Joe ...
well then, there you go! You make Homebrew and Root Beer and I'll
tend the 'shine still underground where they used to raise turkeys and
we can go into a business partnership right there at the Austin House!
Shucks, Gregg and Len can put together a revamped stage line from Baker
City to the Austin House for nostalgia sakes, (Wireless Internet and the
whole nine yards on those buggies!) and then let 'em run on over to
Prairie City - Bend - Salem - Portland - Anchorage, Alaska - round the
world and back to Baker City from the backside. Dr. Mick can be
the Public Relations director and market the whole thing! Shuck
sakes alive ... lets get some tourists ($$$$$) coming over there to
Austinville. Good Homebrew will bring rich Saudi Oil princes to
the Austin House. They can drill for "oil" out back where the
turkey's used to gobble and I'll let them find some Norm's
Pig's-Ear-Silk-Smooth-Austinville Shine as they drill. Let's put
the Austin House on the global map for the WHOLE WORLD to come and taste
that BJ - Forrest's World Famous Homebrew!
And of course, there would be the BJ
- Forrest's World Famous Root Beer for the fainthearted and
the youth. The sky's the limit on this!
Arden May:
12-02-2008: Hi. I remember living in Bates
and going to school there a short while. The teacher was
Miss Gause. I was looking on Dr. Mick's site at the Bates
Majorettes and recognized one: her name was Donna Howell.
My folks lived in one of the houses that was built around a tree
in Knuteville. Some of you may know my dad, Jess May.
My mom and dad are still alive, and in fairly good health.
I think his brother, Walt May, came there after we moved away.
His wife was named jewel. The kids were Walter, Jim, Rick and
Susan. Jewel passed away a couple years or so ago.
More about the tree in our house.
I spoke with my dad recently, to refresh some of my memory.
Dad said the tree was in the living room part of the wall. Mom
said it was on the outside and the walls were built around the tree.
I think Mom is right because that is how I remembered it. The
tree did go up through the roof. We lived in the second or third
house on the bottom row of houses there in Knuteville. Mom
said I walked across the field to go to school. Dad said we could
walk to church. Mom remembers the pastor was a women minister,
but didn't remember her name. I believe it was an Assemblies of God
church.
Dad was the head machinist there and
worked with Lew Smith. Another person he mention was Jack Fraiser.
Dad said the Machine shop was painted red and was next to the mill.
Dad said he didn't know if they had taken many or if any pictures,
but I know they did because I remember seeing some; they will look
and see. I am the same age as you, Norm. Age 62; birth date
9/22/46. We probably had Agnes L. Gause at the
same time as our 3rd grade teacher.
We moved from Long Creek to Bates in
1954 and then moved to Klamath, CA in 1955. Leland
Simonson offered dad a job to come to California to help him build a
mill in Klamath. Leland did work for Hines lumber Co. He
also had a large mill in Smith River, CA. I went through some of my
pictures and found a class picture from Long Creek and also my third
grade report card from Bates. Wow - I didn't remember I had it. Was
there a place called Jump Off Joe? I somehow vaguely remember
it.
I remember in the winter
time sledding down a hill. All the kids were there; It was a lot of
fun, and the fires to help keep us warm. I believe in the
field, water had frozen and people were skating and there were
bonfires to keep warm, and also the snow ball fights. I remember
getting clobbered. I remember Dad bringing home two nice
bucks. He really liked to hunt and so do I. I also
remember fishing off the bridge and creek -- catching trout. Now I
go out under the Golden Gate SF and catch large salmon, rock cod,
and ling cod. I have one son and three daughters, three
grandchildren, two dogs, one cat, and three foreign exchange
students.
Arden May [ampmay@prodigy.net]
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Billie Joe'
George's response to Arden's post: Yes -
there is a Lake called Jump Off Joe. It's down by
Desolation Meadows on the back side of Vinegar - kind of
in the Indian Rock area. We used to go there a lot.
Dad would trap live mice and float them out on a thin
board and you still couldn't get those huge trout to
bite. It is so clear and very deep. Around
the edge the water is really pretty, but not to far out
it just turns black when it starts getting deep. It is
about a 1/2 mile walk off the road to Desolation
Meadows, from the Crocket Knob - Indian Rock Rd.
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Billie Joe George (Raines): 12-01-2008: We just
returned from our week-end at Austin. You will not believe this. First
of Dec. and no snow anywhere. None on Dixie; very little on
Vinegar; Tipton was bare to. Terry and I were mad at ourselves. We
could have spent Thanksgiving at the cabin for the first time since I
can remember. Yesterday I made us turkey sandwiches and we had a picnic
out back while we burned the summer's lawn clippings. No coats
necessary. It was an Indian Summer day. We are all ready for when the
cold hits however, as we know it will probably be real soon.
Norm Note: I asked Billie Joe
earlier today in an email if she ever had a chance to do much
snowmobiling in the Bates/Austin area growing up. I thought her
answer should be posted here. She experienced something I never
experienced living there. "I wanna go home; I wanna go home;
ohhhhh how I wannnna ... goooo home."
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We used to but not so much any
more. After Mom (Teresa Raines; wife of Forrest) got
sick it was mostly taking care of the things she couldn't
do. So we just never got to do it any more. There is nothing
like a midnight snowmobile ride on Christmas night. My
husband Terry, Phronsie (Older sister and twin to Francis)
and I did that a couple times. Talk about making you
appreciate the day. Clear sky and the stars shining
overhead, and just enough moon to give some light. Take off
at Austin - go up the rail road tracks to the far end of the
meadow - cut up over the hill, and come out on the new road
that goes above the old Vinegar Creek Swimming hole, and
down onto the Middle Fork. It was a beautiful ride. Made you
remember what the day was all about. I remember
setting on the hill just before you drop onto the Middle
Fork Road, with Dixie Mountain in the back ground ... and
thanking God for letting me be so lucky to be where we were
on that night. It took my breath away. It was so
beautiful.
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Norm Rasmussen: 11-25-2008: I'm buying a tent and moving to
Bates and setting up a moonshine still in them thar mountains somewhere!
I'm convinced that The Mother of All Bubbles is U.S. Government
debt!
Gregg Smith: 11-24-2008: Here is the story about the
location of the White Pine mill after talking with Elwood Greear in John
Day. He is in hisearly 90s. He grew up in Austin and
Bates and was the last mill boss in Bates. Elwood said the White
Pine mill was about 1/2 mile north of Sixteen Gulch at a little
meadow on Crawford Creek. They called the meadow "Jap Meadow"
because there were a number of Japanese working there. A team of
Australians cut the grades for the logging train. They used pick
and shovel and a horse drawn 'Fresno' scraper. They also built the
bridges. Then a Japanese crew came along and laid the ties and
rails.
The oldest people from the Bates /
Austin area are in their 90s. Carol Johns, Elwood Greear and Rial
Green. If you have any more question, ask them soon.
Len Cardwell: 11-24: Thought I would add a little to
Gregg's post above. If you take the Crawford Creek road from either
the top of Tipton (Hwy 7) or at Crawford Meadows (Hwy 26), you will
come to a intersection about half way through. Beside the road is
some concrete blocks that the White Pine Boiler sat on. Just over
across the creek is the road up to Jap Meadows. The old railroad
grade is still there along Crawford road. It ties in to the main
line at the upper end of Taylor Siding were we had the Bates
Reunion. That was also PRIME Art Cardwell and Leonard Watterson
Hunting Country. I killed my first buck right there. (Norm
note: Care to offer some specific details about that
first buck, Len? Like - how old were you? Did you get
buck fever? How many times did you shoot at him before he ran
into a bullet? After the point of the bullet's impact, how long did
it take for his tongue to flop out his mouth and droop over to the
side? Details, my man, details! We need more interesting
DETAILS to these posts, otherwise people are going to go back and
start reading old Ann Landers archives).
Rial's Answer to Gregg About The Camp's Questions Below: 11-20-08:
When I lived there, my dad worked in Camp 1 and Sherm Coulter was camp
boss and Camp 2 was bossed by Richard Hyatt. The camps moved quite
often. When that section had been logged they moved camp. We lived
in a camp up Vinegar creek, which ran into the John Day River about 3
miles down the river from Bates. The other camp was somewhere west of us
quite a few miles. At another time we lived on the summit of Dixie
mountain -- however the camp was a mile down the hill towards Prairie
City. We lived right by the highway and I caught the school bus there
that year. Another rime our camp was down the river close to Susanville.
One year we lived in Whitney where the Oregon Lumber Co. built another
mill. When they started to haul some logs by truck, there was
another camp on Dixie before you reached the summit. We turned
left from the highway and it was about 2 miles up the road. The first
trucks were only 1 1/2 ton trucks, and while riding down the hill the
floor shuddered so much you thought the transmission was coming up
through the floor. Later they used bigger trucks after they quit the
railroad.
When I got back from the Air Force in
1945 my dad and his crew were pulling up the last of the steel from the
Sumpter Valley tracks near Baker City. Later a group from Baker started
a restoration project. Union Pacific gave them some old steel which they
laid on the old road bed from McEwen to Sumpter and they got some old
locomotives and restored them. At least two of the Sumpter Valley
engines were brought back from The White Pass and Yukon railroad which
runs from Skagway Alaska to Whithorse Yukon territory. They had bought
the engines from the SVRR and when they changed to Diesel engines the
old SVRR engines were retired. They also have a Heisler engine which
they restored and run it from McEwen with a couple of passenger cars to
Sumpter for tourists in the summer. That engine is one my dad ran for
the Baker White Pine Lbr. Co. in 1914. I have a book called Rails,
Sagebrush and Pine written by Mallory Hope Ferrell which is about the
Sumpter Valley RR and the Oregon Lbr. Co. which at one time was the
longest narrow gauge railroad in the USA when the tracks still ran over
to Prairie City. About half of the pictures in the book were furnished
by my dad but after the book was published I had a hard time getting the
pictures back and many were never returned. I have them in storage
someplace; perhaps in my storage unit here in Spokane. I do have one box
of pictures there and a couple of boxes here in the house. The book has
pictures of all the Sumpter Valley locomotives and all of it's rolling
stock. The book is out of print now. Years ago I did find one which I
gave to my youngest son who lives in Anchorage, AK.
Next Email from Rial to Gregg:
Elwood is right. It was not the ditch to feed the mill pond. As
you look at the photo at the far end of the houses to the right, the
ditch ran on the flat behind the houses and curved along the brush line
you see. If this picture was taken in 1923 when I lived there, I was
too young to notice it. In about 1930 I played on that hillside some
and I don't remember that line. It might have been removed by then.
Elwood lived in a house at the far right end of the houses and knows
where the ditch ran behind his house. His uncle Mr. Johnston pulled me
out of that ditch once in the winter. I had been sleigh riding with some
others on the right side of the hill and they took a shortcut down the
hill behind the Jonston's house and across a bridge over the creek. I
was behind and to catch up I rode my sled down the hill and missed the
bridge and dove into the ditch. There was about 3 or 4 feet of snow and
I was standing in waist deep water and I couldn't get out. It was very
cold and I started calling for help. Fortunately Mr. Jonston was in the
outhouse beside the ditch and heard me. I held up my sled and he
reached down and pulled me out. I don't think I would have lasted much
longer if he hadn't been there to help me. I often wonder why I have
lived so long. I've had a lot of close calls but none more close than
that time.
As with everyone else, that line is
a mystery to me The road into Bates ran between the houses until about
the fifth house on the far right and then turned toward the flat and the
store, etc. We need someone older than me to solve the puzzle!
(The photo being discussed is the one
taken of Bates in 1920. It is on Dr. Mick's site.)
Norm Note: 11-20-08: I'm beginning to question my wisdom of
putting most recent emails here at the top, rather than putting
them at the bottom. It may be difficult for some people to
grasp the flow correctly of these emails I'm positing. Having said
such ...
Gregg Smith has been dialoguing with Rial
Green about Bates/Austin things, and Gregg has been forwarding me a
copy of their dialogue, which is really some very precious history that
I want to record here, otherwise it will probably be lost:
Rial Green: 03-19-08:
I am now 88 years old and live in Spokane Valley, Washington. I
was born in Baker, but when I was three years old my father,
Claude Green,
moved us to Bates. He ran a locomotive for over 45 years for
the Oregon Lumber Co. He ran the engine when they pulled
the last rails up in 1947.My sister was three years
older than me so she started school before Mr. Cardwell came
there. At that time the Bates kids walked up the track and went
to school at the Austin school (about a 1/4 mile from
Austin). The year before she started, the principal was a small
man named Thompson. When he tried to discipline the younger
boys, they would run into the other room and get their big
brother to beat up the principal. Some of these older boys were
practically full grown men - perhaps 17 years old still in
school. At any rate Mr. Thompson only lasted six months and
quit.
They then got this large
woman principal and she whacked these older boys with a
triangular ruler and they finally quit school and went to work
logging. Art Cardwell came the next year and very quickly had
the remainder of the older boys under control. The year before I
started first grade, some older boys put a thumb tack on Mr.
Cardwell's chair while he was out getting wood for the
furnace. The boys fled out a window and Mr. Cardwell said, "All
of you kids stay in your seats!" and he ran out the door, and in 30
minutes all four boys came back with a hound-dog look and were
good boys after that.
When I was
in the 7th grade Mr. Cardwell gave us an oral test
on agriculture. I didn't have the faintest clue
about farming: all I knew about was logging. This
day I had not studied my lesson and when he asked me
what the farmer stored in his silo, I couldn't come
up with the answer. He said "I know your dad cuts
up cabbage and puts it down in a big crock, which
works the same as a silo. Now what do you call what
the farmer puts in his silo?"
"Oh ..." I said.
"Sauerkraut."
Mr. Cardwell
said, "No - it is called silage, and for your
smart-aleck answer you can stand in the corner for
an hour." I decided I would study my lessons after
that, although I appreciated the laughs I got.
I was the best speller in class
and on one written test of about 20 words I allowed
Bob Edwards (who was the poorest student in class)
to peek at my paper. He copied all the words but
thought he would change one word so Mr. Cardwell
wouldn't know he had copied. To my dismay, he had
changed the only word I had gotten wrong and had it
right! Mr. Cardwell could never figure out how Bob
could get 100% on a test and me only 90%. I never
let Bob copy from me after that.
Bob had started school when my
sister did, three years before me, but since she had
taught me what she learned as a first and second
grader, I was able to read some and knew some
arithmetic. I was skipped to the second grade
and didn't have to do the first grade. What with
failed classes for Bob and his brother Jake, I
caught up with them. When I graduated in Prairie
City high, Jake and I graduated together and Bob was
still a freshman. Bob only liked to go to school
during football season and then drop out until the
next year.
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I found Mr. Cardwell was one of the best
teachers I ever had. He was well respected by everyone; even
the ones he had spanked earlier. All of us boys learned to smoke
very early (I started when I was 10) but if Mr. Cardwell saw us smoking, even out of school in the middle
of the summer, he would pull out his leather strap and give us a
few whacks. And if we complained to our parents we got another
one at home. I really believe he changed the lives of many who
got very little quality parenting at home.
I graduated from the Austin - Bates school in
1932.
I rode the bus to Prairie City to high school
and graduated from there in 1936. We had only 12
graduating students that year. In those days no student
could drive a car to school; you rode the bus or walked. I
am amazed at the parking lots in schools now. Every kid
has a car and beware of the traffic when school lets out!
I went to work in the mill in
Bates that year at age 16 and in 1940 enlisted in the Air Force
along with Franz Knanenburg and two other friends. Franz was
the youngest son of Mrs Kranenburg and after the war he became
postmaster in Prairie City.
I worked for Ellingston in their mills after
the war and got married in 1952 and moved to Montana until 2005,
and then moved to Spokane Valley where I live with my
daughter. My wife passed away a month after we moved over here.
While we still lived in Montana several years
ago, my wife and I took two of our granddaughters on a trip to
the coast of Oregon. On the way I drove into the Bates townsite
to show them where I grew up and Bates was missing! I
really felt bad, but still have many good memories of life and
school there. I wish I had known about the Bates Reunion
get-togethers every few years. I would have loved to have seen
Mr. Cardwell again, and any others I knew.
Email:
rialg4719@hotmail.com
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Carol Johns:
02-02-2008: (Phone conversation): "Chet is outside blowing snow
with the blower. We've got about five feet of snow here in Bates and
it's snowing hard."
Norm Rasmussen:
01-30-2008: Staff writer Jayson Jacoby from the
Baker City
Herald Newspaper granted permission to reprint his entire article
about the new proposed Bates Park that
recently got picked up by the Associated Press (Thanks, Jayson!):
By: Jayson Jacoby, Baker City Herald
The remnants of the sawmill that gave birth to Bates,
a Grant County ghost town that was quite lively as recently as the mid
1970s, will become Oregon's newest state park. The state Parks and
Recreation Commission has authorized state officials to spend as much as
$500,000 in lottery revenue to buy the 131-acre property that includes the
site of the Oregon Lumber Company sawmill that was Bates' centerpiece, and
the reason the company-owned town was founded in 1917.
Bates, which had a population of about 300, basically
folded in October 1975 when the Edward Hines Lumber Company, which then
owned the mill, closed the operation, moved the equipment to John Day and
sold the other buildings, including several dozen houses. Many of
those houses were moved to either Prairie City or John Day, where they're
still used as residences.
The 131-acre property is just west and south of the
intersection of Oregon Highway 7 and Grant County Road 20, which follows the
Middle Fork of the John Day River. That intersection is about a mile
north of Austin Junction, where Highway 7 and Highway 26 meet. Bates
is several miles from the Baker County-Grant County line, about 48 miles, by
Highway 7, from Baker City.
"The 131-acre parcel is near, but does not include,
the Bates townsite," said Dennis Reynolds, a John Day resident and board
member of the Bates Park and Museum Foundation, the private nonprofit group
that bought the property in December 2006. Reynolds said the
Foundation originally intended to transfer the property to Grant County.
But he said county officials were concerned that the county could not afford
to build a park at the site, so they suggested the Foundation talk instead
with state parks officials. Foundation board members agreed, Reynolds said.
Their main goal is to preserve the property, and along with it the story of
Bates, Reynolds said.
Right now there isn¹t even a sign to indicate that the
thriving little town existed as recently as the Gerald Ford administration.
"It would be nice to give the area some recognition,"
said Chris Havel, a spokesman for the State Parks and Recreation Department.
Havel expects the agency will take ownership of the
Bates property by late spring or early summer. State officials
probably will need at least a couple of years, however, to decide what type
of state park to build.
Parks range from day-use sites such as the nearby
Sumpter Valley Dredge, to parks with campgrounds equipped with water, sewer
and electrical hookups for RVs, such Farewell Bend near Huntington.
Havel said state officials hope to open the Bates park in 2011.
Grant County Judge Mark Webb is excited about the
prospects for the Bates property. "Having it become a state park would
reward the vision and diligent efforts of former Bates residents who wanted
this area recognized and protected for its many attributes, and developed to
its full potential," Webb said, according to a press release from the
Parks Department.
Norm Rasmussen is one of those former residents.
Rasmussen, 61, lives near Grand Rapids, Michigan, "But I always tell people
that at heart I'm a hillbilly from Eastern Oregon," Rasmussen said Tuesday
in a telephone interview from his home. "Bates is home and I love it
and want to see it prosper."
Rasmussen thinks a state park at Bates could attract
thousands of visitors whom he predicts will be fascinated by this mostly
forgotten place's legacy as a classic Oregon company sawmill town. "Those
places are becoming a thing of the past," Rasmussen said.
Rasmussen moved with his family from Long Creek, also
in Grant County, to Bates in 1951, when he was five. He attended
school in Bates through eighth grade. Because Bates never had a high
school, students had to ride the bus about 17 miles, over the sometimes
treacherous Dixie Butte pass, to Prairie City. Rasmussen graduated
from Prairie City High School in 1965. He moved away and never again lived
in Bates.
But Rasmussen still cherishes his years growing up in
Bates. "The best years of my childhood," he said. "Tons of memories."
And most of them are good memories.
Except certain ones involving Dooley Mountain and
throwing up, which is a combination anyone who has ever traveled that
serpentine route will understand.
Because Bates was relatively isolated, Prairie City is
the nearest other town of consequence, and getting there was no minor matter
when snow was three feet deep and the temperature 35 below. "Bates
kids weren't accustomed to traveling," Rasmussen said.
"For a kid up to say 15 or 16 years old, going to John
Day, which is where all the parents went to get groceries or see a movie. .
. . wow, it was kind of like you or I going to Hollywood," he said. "In our
mind that was a long ways away." John Day is 13 miles past Prairie City.
"But the journey to John Day," Rasmussen said, "Was
commonplace compared with the nearly epic expedition to Baker." He
said his family made that excursion maybe twice a year, including one in
late summer to buy school clothes because prices were cheaper in Baker.
Today, the easiest route from Bates to Baker is
Highway 7. It's a bit curvy in places but it's not like, say, one of
those amusement park rides where a low-ranking worker is always stationed
with a shovel and a bucket of sawdust. Back in the 1950s, though,
what¹s now Highway 7 was a rough dirt road.
The only paved route to Baker was east on Highway 26
to the Unity Junction, then past Unity Reservoir and along the Burnt River
to Dooley Mountain. The highway that climbs Dooley (it was, curiously,
Highway 7 then, and is Highway 245 now) has more squiggles than a toddler¹s
first drawing. Rasmussen's stomach did not appreciate this.
"I threw up every time," he
said, chuckling at memories which, half a century on, have made that magical
transformation from unpleasant (and messy) to humorously nostalgic.
"My parents hated to take me," Rasmussen said. Sour stomach aside, he
said the family's arrival in Baker never seemed less than a wondrous event
to him. "To us Bates kids, John Day was big but Baker was huge; just a
huge city," he said. "It was just the largest city around."
Leonard Cardwell shares both Rasmussen's love for
Bates, and hopes that the creation of a state park will help preserve the
town's history.
"There's a real need there," said Cardwell, who was
born in 1937 and lived in Bates until he graduated from Prairie City High
School in 1955 and joined the Navy. Cardwell, who has lived in Pendleton since 1989, owned
a cabin at Bates for many years which he used as a base camp for hunting and
fishing trips. He attends the reunions that former Bates residents put on at
the site every two years. About 300 people came to the most recent
reunion last year.
"There's still a sense of home there whether there's
houses or not," Cardwell said. "The people had real close family ties, and
most everybody who lived in Bates has stayed in touch over the years.
It's home. Still home."
SIDEBAR: Bates got its start when the
Oregon Lumber Company built a sawmill near the Middle Fork in 1917.
The Sumpter Valley Railroad, the famous Stump Dodger, passed nearby on its
way to its terminus in Prairie City. According to Oregon Geographic
Names, Bates post office was established on March 24, 1919, and was
named for Paul C. Bates, a Portland insurance agent involved in the Oregon
Lumber Company's negotiations to buy timberland near its sawmill.
Lenora Healy
(Rasmussen): 01-29-2008: It was good to be able to read
the many memories recorded in Sonja's book, and the memories and thoughts
others have shared below. Reading them has brought back many memories
of my own, and I'll share some of them.
Ruby Mc Callister, daughter of Riley and Elizabeth Mc
Callister, was one of my best friends in Bates. We were in the same grade.
I don't recall now exactly what year it happened, but in was somewhere
between 1953-1955. We were between the ages of 11-13. Ruby was
an excellent swimmer. One day she and I were swimming in one of the
"dredge" holes in the river down from the saw mill. She was teaching me how
to swim. I could dog paddle, and that was all. I ventured out into deeper
water. I couldn't touch bottom and started to panic. I bobbed up and down
in the water, thrashed my hands and feet and coughed and choked.
I lost control and feared I was drowning. Ruby swam to me, pulled me to
shore and slapped my back to expel more water. I don't remember if we
were with anyone else, or how we got home. I only know Ruby saved my life
that day and I will always be grateful to her. Ruby lived in The
Dalles, Oregon, where she deceased in 2004.
Marlene Blume was another best friend, also in the same grade. Sometimes we
would go to the Bates Hotel, where her mother, Hazel Blume, cooked for the
men who boarded there. Hazel fed us many home-cooked meals and I thought
she was the best cook in all the world. We were only allowed to go into the
kitchen, and could never speak or mingle with any of the boarders.
I spent many hours in the home of Lyle and Hazel Blume.
Marlene and I had several "sleep-overs" and I remember waking up to the
smell of bacon, eggs, and pancakes - Hazel made for us for breakfast.
Lyla Blume was Marlene's younger sister. She could play "honky tonk" piano
like me. We used to takes turns at the piano in their home trying to out-do
one another on the keyboard. Hazel and Lyle would join us in singing.
Their favorite song then was "Mocking Bird Hill." I loved to play that song
and they loved to sing it.
My interest in learning to play the piano started in the 4th grade when
Raymond Rasmussen moved his family from Long Creek to Bates. I attended the
Assembly of God Church and was allowed to stay after meetings and plunk on
the piano.
Mrs. Davis was the lady minister then. She could sing and play the guitar.
She made music come alive for me and sang solos in church meetings. She
encouraged me to play on the piano and to sing. She had two step-sons, Vern
and Ralph, who were also my friends. I taught myself to play the piano
by ear. I started with a simple tune of "Mary Had A Little Lamb." As I
hummed and plunked out the keys that matched my hums, slowly I put together
melodies and chords. As time went on, I learned how to use full-octive
chords, syncopation, rolling and sliding chords. I developed a "honky tonk"
sound that I became very good at over the years. Eventually I was able to
play some of the gospel tunes in the meetings in that church. Mrs.
Davis gave me my first Bible. I earned it in summer vacation Bible school.
It was white leather with a zipper. I prized it, read it, and marked it.
My piano playing continued in the Bates grade school. I
often stayed inside at recess, and after school, to play the piano. When I
was in the 5th grade, my parents bought a piano. It was a surprise, and the
day I came home from school and saw it in our living room, I screamed and
cried. I have that piano in my home today and it has the best touch for
Honky Tonk playing. My parents, Ray and Edna Rasmussen, had previously
traveled to Portland and mother picked it out for me. They made payments of
$10 a month until it was paid for. I still have the receipts.
The Hines Lumber Company made available wall paper and paint for employees
to fix up their houses. Dad brought home wall paper samples in a big book
and we choose our designs and colors for each room in the house. Because I
had a keen interest in art and working with color, Mom let me make most of
the choices for the house. We worked together as a family decorating each
room. I remember Mom making wall-paper paste out of flour. Dad brushed the
paper with the paste, and hung it on the wall. Our house came alive with
color.
Mrs. Kranenburg (not sure if this is the proper spelling
of her name) hired me to trim the grass in her yard. I did not mow the
lawn. My job was to trim where the lawn mower couldn't mow. I used her
clippers to trim under fences, around
flower beds, and next to the house. I weeded flower beds. She gave me
cold drinks of lemonade or Kool-Aid with homemade cookies for
refreshment. She instilled within me a sense of pride to do the very best
job I could and was generous in paying me, thus developing my work ethic.
Working in the summers for Mrs. Kranenburg was the first job I ever had. I
remember how grown-up and important I felt to be earning my own money. I
saved my money to buy clothes for school. Mrs. Kranenburg was always
friendly and kind to me. Going to her house was like going to a
"Grandmother's" house, a blessing I never had with my own grandparents, who
were deceased, or lived too far away. I will always remember the little
white-haired lady who lived at the end of the middle row of houses closest
to the airport hill.
After I graduated from the 8th grade in 1956, I attended
high school in Prairie City for the next two years. Mrs. Kranenburg had
moved to Prairie City at some point around that time. One day I went to
visit her on my lunch time, and she made me a huge breakfast of bacon, eggs,
toast, and milk. I don't remember ever seeing her again. I really liked
Mrs. Kranenburg.
I was employed by the Allenbaugh family, who lived in
Newtville, to babysit their children for three days while they were on a
trip. I stayed at their house, did the cooking, and got us all off to
school. The year was about 1955-56. I don't remember the names of the
children, but the oldest daughter helped me make dinner one night and asked
if she could make the dessert. She opened home-canned peaches and
bing cherries, mixed them together, and called them "Pa-cherries." We all
laughed at her creativity in the name she called her dessert. The
combination tasted good....especially with cream.
My classmate, Marilyn Jones, swallowed an opened safety pin one day while
sitting in class. It was the 5th and 6th grade room because I remember Mr.
Cardwell, the Principal, coming in being very concerned about her. (About
1953-1954). It was decided that she would go home so her parents could take
her to the doctor. When she returned she told us that the doctor told her
to eat a lot of bread to bind around the pin and that it would pass from her
body. I imagined all sorts of horror that pin might cause for my friend.
The first time I remember driving a car while living at Bates, was a time
Larry Immoos drove his car to Unity with a car full of kids to get a Coke at
the Unity Store. My older sister, Yvonne, had taught me a little about
driving, so on the way home Larry asked me to drive the car to the "Y"
Junction, so he could sit in the back seat with his girl friend, Lana Owens,
who was my classmate. Larry gave me pointers from the back seat on
driving until he felt confident I could handle driving the car. We arrived
safely, and I will always remember how I held the lives of those people in
my hands, while Larry held his girlfriend in his arms. Larry and Lana got
married a few years later.
My father, Raymond Rasmussen, was a champion cribbage
player. He often went to the Bates Hotel in the evenings to play his
favorite card game. One December, the "Y" Junction Inn had prizes of
boxes of chocolates they were giving away to the winner of card games. My
dad came home with boxes of chocolates every time he went to play a game.
There were several boxes of chocolates in our utility room where they were
stored. I opened the boxes and looked for my favorite chocolates. Seemed
someone else beat me to my favorites, because all the carmel nut ones had
all been eaten and all I could find was a coffee-mocha soft filling I did
not like. I went through a lot of candy trying to find one that tasted
good. One day my Dad went to get some candy, and found so many
missing, and shouted out to his children, "Who's been eating my
chocolates?" I did not answer, thinking it would pass and one of my
siblings would get blamed.
After a period of days, my conscience burned, because I knew I was the
guilty party. I confessed that I was the chocolate sampler. I never knew
who ate the "good" ones, and since Dad kept bringing home more and more
boxes of candy, he did not punish me for telling the truth.
My mother, Edna Rasmussen, loved to pick huckleberries. One day in August
about 1954 - 1955, she and I drove our green Buick "down the river" to one
of her favorite berry patches. We walked a long way through a small
valley and up the side of a mountain to find a good patch. While
filling our buckets, we heard a loud snort in the bushes. I was scared
stiff, and shouted to my mother, "Bear, bear!" We both took off running
down the mountain not looking back. When we reached the bottom, there was
nothing following us so we stopped to rest. Mom said it must have been a
buck deer snorting in the woods, and not a bear. We walked out that day
with only a few berries. We found an old gold mining dredge hole, and went
swimming - in our clothes. Mom was a very good swimmer and I marveled at
how smooth she was in the water. It was the only time I ever saw her swim
... it was the only day I ever had a one-on-one day with my mother.
Mom died June 1996 in her home in Bend, Oregon; 86 years old.
One afternoon one of my friends and I went for a hike up
Airport Hill. I can't remember who was with me. It was either Darlene
Caldwell, Ruby Mc Callister, or Marlene Blume, as those where the friends I
played with the most, who were all in my classmates. I got the big
idea to push a big rock down the hill to see how fast it would gather
momentum, thinking it would end up in the big mill pond at the base of the
mountain. We both pushed, and away it rolled......faster and faster
down the hill. Suddenly we saw an empty logging truck headed down the river
to bring back another load of logs. I clenched my teeth, squeezed my hands
together, and watched the horror of the rock hitting the road at the same
time the truck aligned with it. The truck high-centered on the rock, and
stopped. My friend and I high-tailed it over the mountain, scared to death
to go home and face our parents. I knew my Dad would be very upset with me
if he found out.
Somehow we worked our way around the mountain and went home. I said nothing
to my parents about the incident. Strangely, Dad never mentioned it as part
of the "scuttle-but" mill talk that passes through a small sawmill town. I
carried the guilt for a long time, wondering what kind of damage I did to
that logging truck. I never found out.
(Uncalledfor Editorial Comment: Suppose this was
how the term came to be: Rock-In-Roll? Furthermore ... wouldn't it be
"interesting" to know just how many kids rolled rocks down that SAME hill?
I can raise MY hand!)
Lenora's Email:
paulandnorahealey@hotmail.com
Norm Rasmussen:
01-20-2008: Len Cardwell emailed me the proposed site plans in
attachment form of the future Bates Mill Park, but I'm not able to post them
on this site for some unknown reason. There are some nice aerial
photos of the Bates area in these attachments, so you can email Len and ask
him to forward them to you, or I'll be glad to email them to you. My
email is:
norm@precious-testimonies.com
Mick Watterson:
01-18-2008: News
Flash! Bates Mill Park
APPROVED! (Thanks for updating us, Mick!)
"State Parks panel says
"YES!" to Bates site. The Oregon Parks and Recreation Commission voted
Thursday, Jan. 17, to proceed with buying the Bates mill town property in
Grant County for development as a state park."
From Mick
Watterson: 01-14-2008: (Mick dug up this old news article
somewhere on the Internet and thought maybe someone might be interested in
reading it. It was published in 1936):
BATES RECOVERS AS LUMBER CREWS BUSY
Oregon Company Has About 250 men in Several Woods, Mill Crews.
A crew of about 250 men
is now employed in the lumbering operations at Bates, including three
logging crews, and that town is enjoying the greatest prosperity for several
years.
The Bates mill of the
Oregon Lumber company is now operating two cutting crews days and one crew
at night, and is turning out lumber for the trade at the rate of about
165,000 feet a day.
There are three logging
camps; a railroad camp on the west side of Dixie mountain in charge of S.W.
Coulter; a truck camp on the east side of Dixie in charge of R. M. Hiatt;
and a contractor camp operated by Frank Gardiner on White Pine siding over
further east. The work of constructing ten miles of new railroad line to tap
a belt of timber 20 miles up the Middle Fork was started this week and it is
expected that logging operations will be transferred to that section this
fall. The rail line now extends ten miles north and the extension will be
ten miles beyond that.
C.A. McElroy is wood superintendent at
Bates operations, and Damian Gabiola is mill superintendent. In charge of
the timekeepers office is Carl Leishman, with Rosco Johns assisting him –
John Day Valley Ranger
Norm's note
here: If anyone
wants to forward me newspaper clippings such as this one, feel free to do
so. If I get enough of them, I'll build a separate folder to put them
in, so we don't clutter up this section of the Bates/Austin site. I
want to keep it solely for personal dialogue, because some may not want to
read old news clippings along with personal dialogue from former
Bates/Austin-onians. I recently contacted the Manager of the
Blue Mountain Eagle, and they do NOT have old newspaper clippings on
their Internet data base. They are filed in a different manner, and
would require a person to go there and spend a great deal of time searching,
copying, then emailing them to me. The Manager said it would be much
easier for a person to go to the County Library and search for past news
clippings from their microfiche records.
Linda Mathison 01-15-2008: That's a very intriguing
newspaper article!
I knew: Bill Hiatt (ran the
big snowplow and managed the highway department which was across the
street from Blue Mtn. Ranger Station). He was the guy we were so glad to
see on those snowy days, plowing our highway between Bates and Prairie
City. I am sure he had a crew working with him. We always supposed it
was Bill Hiatt behind the wheel. We used to follow the snowplow in our
car, if possible, so as not to slip.
I knew of Carl Leishman and
I knew "Punkie Welch." Wasn't she the daughter?
I knew Roscoe Johns; he was
the Clerk in the ranger station. My dad worked at the John Day
Ranger Station (compound) before he was transferred to become the USFS
Ranger at the Blue Mountain Ranger Station.
At some point we might get
the "big picture" of what actually happened on and around Dixie Mountain
from the late 1800's to when the town left and it all returned to a
meadow.
Anyway,
yes, we surely did know Bill Hiatt. He and his wife, Dutchie, used
to visit our home or we visited their home, and we sometimes had
some pie and ice cream while watching a favorite TV. show, usually
Rawhide or Have Gun will Travel, one of those,
on an evening when we could get together. My mother and Mrs. Hiatt,
Dutchie, were friends. Dutchie developed cancer although almost no
one knew it. She asked my mother if she could please
have me accompany her to church on Sundays. I happily did this. We
went to the Pentecostal brown church that had once been a home but
was made into a church. I used to call it "the Holy Roller church"
although maybe it was 7th Day Adventist? I was 13. I played the
piano for the church services there for one year. Georgia Frasier
led the service. She always wore black, a long black dress or a
robe, and I think possibly a hat with a veil. She played a
tambourine. I chose the church service music from their hymnals. I
loved the song, "Up from the grave He arose." It would start
softly. "Lo, in the grave He lay, Jesus, my Savior. Waiting the
coming day, Jesus, my Lord." "Up from the grave He arose, with a
mighty triumph o'er His foes, He arose a victor from the dark
domain, and He lives forever with His Saints to reign, He Arose, He
Arose, Hallelujah, Christ Arose." We also sang many favorite
hymns from the hymnal. I remember "Love Lifted Me" was a
favorite.
I
was always so very humbled by the people, a small group, who would
steadfastly go to church there on Sunday. I loved them. After about
one year at church services, Dutchie passed away. I am still
grateful spending time in church with Dutchie and those
people. What stays with me about Bates is: although many people
might have struggled, there was a spiritual light. I saw the
strength of people who loved the Sabbath. (As you keep the Sabbath,
so will it keep you...)
As for
Rocky Johns, he was a favorite of mine, at the ranger station. He
was a popular clerk. He always welcomed me or other kids who might
wander in, looking for Dad. He had candy in his desk drawer which
he would give to the little kid, Dennis Stull. Dennis was the
little brother of John Quisenberry and Eileen, his sister.
As for
Leishman's Merc, we just loved that store. I liked to look for
anything kids would like, and especially the 45 records that started
to show up. Itsy Bitsy Teenie Weenie Yellow Polka Dot Bikini
was my first record from the Merc.
Take care, keep looking for
information, this is very intriguing to me,
Linda
Eunice (Olsen)
Bullis: 11-06-2007:
I'm the oldest daughter of Almer Olsen. Our family
moved to Bates in 1956, when Dad came to pastor the church there; he
pastored for four years. On the first sunday that we came - before
actually deciding to move there, I was invited by Lenora
Rasmussen and Darlene Coalwell to go for a walk in the afternoon. We
walked from the church down to Austin and back. It's probably close to
a mile, so we had plenty of time to visit and get acquainted. They made
us feel so welcome - and it didn't seem so scary to move to a
place where I already knew somebody! Lenora and Darlene were
both in my class. Lenora and I both played piano and sang; so we
did duets several times at church - and at least once at a baccalaureate
of one of the classes ahead of us.I
remember the cold winters - it was not uncommon to be - 20 to -
40 degrees in the mornings. I tell my friends that Bates had 3 seasons:
July, August, and Winter! We'd stand out on the street waiting for the
school bus, and dance a jig - trying to keep from freezing. It
was also not uncommon to have 20" to 30" of snow. I am amused that the
schools and businesses are closed in the Willamette Valley of
Oregon - with a couple inches of snow! But of course they don't
have the plows and equipment to deal with it.
The bus took us 17 miles each way - up over Dixie
Pass (almost 1 mile high) to high school in Prairie City. With all the
stops for kids along the way, it was almost an hour each way. I
remember one time that our bus driver (the high school science teacher,
Mr. Bolen) evidently miss-judged the amount of gas in the bus. The bus
ran out of gas - just as we were getting to the summit of Dixie. Of
course the students were all cheering! "No School!" WRONG! As
a science teacher, Mr. Bolen knew that gas runs down-hill; so he let
gravity pull the bus backwards, while turning the wheel hard. He kept
the wheel turned, and let the momentum carry the bus until it was headed
slightly downhill; then he restarted the engine (as it now
had gas) and backed over the summit! As I recall, he didn't stop
for any kids on the way down the hill that day - he coasted the whole
way to town!
Along with the snow, came sledding! We'd climb the
hill near the church - I'm talking half of the kids in town! We
would step sideways in itty-bitty steps, to pack down the snow, making a
sled run - otherwise the snow was so deep that the sled wouldn't go.
Then we'd pile on the sleds - sometimes more than one of us to a sled -
and down the hill we'd go. I remember Floyd Rasmussen brought a car
hood to slide on, once. It went real fast; but when it hit a stump and
stopped suddenly, he got a nasty gash from the edges. I don't think
anyone tried using a hood after that!
We climbed all over the mountains around the town.
We'd key in on the noise from the mill, if we weren't sure of our
direction - that would take us back to town. Sometimes it was fun just
to sit on top of one of the hills, and watch the town go by. Such
care-free days! My kids just can't believe it. They ask "What did you
do?" I don't remember ever being bored! There was a swing built
near the water station, across the paved road from the church. We
would hang out there sometimes, and just visit. I don't remember any
vandalism, or trouble. We all had values instilled into us.
My Dad worked in the woods, in the mill, and on
the pond --- right along with everyone else. Then they found out
that he was a carpenter, so he was put in charge of maintenance of
the company houses - literally every house in town. So he
did plumbing repairs, roof leaks, etc. He really loved Bates. Many
times I heard him say, "I left Bates, but Bates never left me!"
He returned to as many Bates reunions as his health would allow.
The town needed more water, so Dad also "witched"
for water above the highway, in the late 50's. He told them it
was "77 feet down". Sure enough, when they got down to that level,
they found water. And, not only was it water, but it was the
artesian well that is still flowing along the highway - where
all the locals stop to fill their water containers, when they're in
that area.We return to Bates
every-other-year, for the reunion - I think I've only missed one of
them over the years. And it's been nice the last couple of times to
have them at the Bates site.
Judith Nielsen:
10-30-2007:
Hi Norm. I went to school with Floyd and Flora Rasmussen and remember
them well. I still have a Bates Elementary School class picture that
includes them and some of my other classmates.
I read with interest the story about "Bambi", the pet deer that was kept at
the "Y" Junction, because Bambi was brought home by my brother, Dan, after
her mother was killed by a hunter. When she grew so large that we couldn't
contain her, the "Y" Junction owners kept her there. One day she disappeared
and I did not know what happened to her, so when I read the story about how
hunters killed her, even though she had red tags on, I had closure about
what happened to that little deer I loved so well. We still have a
photograph of her when she was living with us.
My family was more familiar with the "Y" Junction, which at that time was
owned by the Imooses, then we were with Bates. We did live on and off at
Bates for a few years in one of the company houses across the meadow from
the main part of town, near the McConnells and Sibleys. My little brother,
"Butchie", died while we were there. My parents then bought a trailer and
we moved on the hill above the "Y".
My Dad, Frank Nielsen, worked as a bulldozer operator for the Hines Lumber
Company; my Mother, Maggie, was a 4-H and Brownie leader; my brother, Dan
and I attended the Bates school. The young people we went to school with
were: Floyd and Flora Rasmussen, Maxine and Gary Ackerson, Nancy and Lois
Olson (the Assembly of God pastor's girls), Cliff, Larry, and Danny
Barnhart, Ginger and Larry Johns, Susan and Mike Bogart, Larry and Myron
Losey, Gladys McAllister, Richard Boyer, Beverly Gates, Stephen Frazier,
Ruth Wilkes, Linda Gray, Tommy Davis, Deloras Allenbaugh, Connie Gause, Lyla
Blume, Terry Ewing, and John Quisenberry (from the Blue Mountain Ranger
Station). (It's not that my memory is that sharp. It's that I recorded the
names of most of these students on the back of the class picture.)
My brother, Dan and I, stumbled onto the old Hobbs Ranch when we were
exploring the woods near the "Y". I never knew the name of it until I read
the stories and letters in the "Bates Memories". At that time the beautiful
old house and barns were still standing. The most scenic meadow I have ever
seen is the one behind the old structures.
Our family and some of our friends, such as the Sibleys, found an abundance
of agates along the Middle Fork of the John Day River and up Camp Creek.
Some of the residents used them to decorate their yards.
A young pastor from Multnomah School of the Bible in
Portland, Oregon by the name of Floyd Moore, began preaching services in the
back room of the school gym (community hall). It was during one of these
services that I accepted the Lord Jesus as my savior. Since we either
didn't have a piano, or no one could play one, my Dad played his ukeline
during the services and I sometimes accompanied him by singing. Mrs. Grames
was the Sunday School teacher.
Pastor Moore went away for awhile and returned with his new
bride, Marion. He and Marion took it good naturedly when someone put their
car up on blocks and removed the tires. Floyd and Marion bought a trailer
and moved near us on the hill along with another Christian couple, Ray and
Hazel Ewing. Our white cat used to visit Floyd and Marion, for a few extra
morsels, as it were, but it returned to us one day with a ring of food
coloring around its tail. We painted a ring of a different color on its
tail and sent it back in their direction. It came back with another colored
ring around its tail. This kept up until we either ran out of food
coloring, or tail.
My brother, Dan, and the other boys in the vicinity of the
"Y" built a tree house in the woods. I was the only girl in the area so
occasionally the boys took pity on me and allowed me access to the tree
house.
Ray and Hazel Ewing's son, Terry, was my best friend and we
would ride our bikes on the woodland trails and roll tires down the hill.
Terry went into the ministry and was married with children when he died in a
mine accident in Canada. When I went back to the Bates area years later it
saddened me to see the buildings gone and the original "Y" Junction torn
down, but when I walked in the woods near where we lived, I saw an old tire
leaning up against a tree, and a lump rose in my throat. It was as if Terry
and I were kids again, whooping, laughing, and rolling old tires down the
hill as we once did.
Our Mom would take us huckleberrying between Dixie Pass and the "Y" so that
we had an ample supply for pies, jelly, and syrup. But, the best harvest we
gleaned in the Bates area were the lifelong friendships with the Sibleys,
Ackersons, Allenbaughs, Fraziers, Moores, Gates, Ewings, and others who were
family friends for years. Bates was congenial for forging lifelong
friendships with the potlucks, picnics, and sledding parties that brought
the whole town together. Surrounded there by Christian neighbors I was
spiritually and emotionally nurtured. It is the one place from my childhood
that is the most precious to me.
When I graduated from high school, I attended - for a time - the same bible
college that Floyd and Marion attended. I was married in 1966 to a born
again Christian by the name of John Goodman and we had one son, Jason
Shawn. In about 1973, an independent Baptist Church started in our home in
Glendale, Arizona that later became Greater Phoenix Baptist. John and I
divorced in 1993, sadly something that sometimes happens to Christian
couples. I am active in an independent Baptist Church here in Cheyenne,
Wyoming. My brother, Dan, is retired and living in the Philippines. My
Mom, Maggie, died a few years ago, but my Dad, Frank, is living in Union,
Oregon and stays busy playing his unusual stringed music instruments at
concerts in Baker. For quite a few years, Ray and Hazel Ewing had a
ministry of carrying Spanish language bibles into Mexico.
I so enjoyed reading the letters and stories about the
Bates area. I sincerely hope that more people who lived there will
contribute to the wealth of stories that already exist.
Judith Nielsen
Email:
judithn945@hotmail.com
Mick Watterson:
08-01-07: I
remember
an incident that occurred on Unity Lake when I was about 14 or 15 years old.
A cousin of mine, Jane Anne, and her husband met the family at Unity Lake
one hot Saturday afternoon. Jane Anne wanted Dad to teach her how to
ski and Dad was more than happy to oblige. She
got up for a few seconds and then fell. Dad circled her with the rope
dragging behind the boat and told her to grab the rope and when the rope was
taut to holler "HIT IT!" Well, we hear the words "HIT IT!" and Dad shoved
the coal to the old Evinrude. I looked in back of the boat and no Jane
Anne ... just circular rings and a big bubble ... a big bubble where she used
to be.
It
seems that when my cousin grabbed the rope, she put it over her head thereby
causing a half-hitch noose around her neck. When she saw the rope go
slightly taut........well, she yelled, "HIT IT!" and basically the power of
the boat and tight rope caused her to corkscrew about four to five feet
under the water. When she finally emerged, she had neck burns and the
top of her bathing suit was torn off. Yes, torn off, and the upper
anatomy was floating about for all to see!! She began to cuss my Dad
over and over.....emphasizing that she would never do this sort of
insane thing again. Over the years, she came to our house quite often
so I assume she eventually forgave Dad. According to my Mother, she never tried
skiing again and forbid her kids to partake in the sport.
Linda (Gjertson)
Mathison: 07-24-07: My
sister, Julie (Gjertson) Thomas and I, attended grade school at Bates, from
1956 to around 1963. We lived at Blue Mountain Ranger Station, two
miles away, and had to ride to school. My sister remembers Mrs. Koberneck,
in first grade, who would slam a ruler on her desk to get everyone's
attention. I remember Mrs. Benson, third and fourth grade teacher, who
played piano to start the day. Our most remembered song was: "Up we go
into the wild, blue yonder." (Air Force.)
At recess we loved to play in the adjacent field
outside school. Boys would scare girls with frogs from the ditch. I
remember music class - "Special Requests." This is where anyone could raise
their hand and request someone to sing in front of the class. My song was:
"The Wayward Wind." I can still sing this and gasp for breath. Mick
Watterson was very famous for "Blue Swede Shoes." Also, Frances and
Phronsie Raines could sing, "I Love Little Willie, I Do, Ma Ma." I
still sing this. Singing was great, and I liked: "Comin' Around the
Mountain, When She Comes, Toot Toot."
Other memories that come to mind: Desks welded
together all in a row, and ink wells with real ink pens for the penmanship.
I enjoyed Mrs. Polly's fifth and sixth grade room. Boys and girls started
to date around that age. I think we bought either blue or red scarves from
the Bates Mercantile store and the boy would wear the scarf if dating the
girl. One day some boy asked me to dance and I slapped him, as I had seen
this in a movie somewhere. I surprised both of us! We were very
embarrassed and didn't ever dance.
Yet then we went into Mister Cardwell's seventh
and eighth grade. At this age, we had sock hops on Friday evenings in the
gymnasium with a record player on the stage, and 45 records we had bought
from the Bates Mercantile. My first record was: "Itsy Bitsy Teeny Weenie
Yellow Polka Dot Bikini" -- the 45's were cheap and sung by imitators of
the real singers, but what did we know? They were proof of
rock 'n roll existing in Bates.
I remember going to the dances. There was not
enough boys to go around, so girls danced together. Oh that Alice ... Alice
Vincent; Nancy Workman; Carol Reid; ... such delightful, fun classmates;
others. After dancing, one of the parents who sponsored sock hops
would feed us a cupcake and Cool Aid in the church part of the building
behind the stage. It was divine.
In that very same alcove, I attended church. I
must have gotten saved about 10 times in the kitchen! We had to go in there
so it would be private. Then we would be escorted onto the stage where the
pastor would explain that now we were in the Lamb's Book of Life. I
was very impressed. I also played piano for this church, and for the church
in the brown house on the hill. I began playing at age 13 and decided to
create a music program. We had just a few faithful. I loved fast songs and
liked to see anything that would make them jump up. Such power. I still
love country gospel hymns and I always play this at home if I need music.
I remember the love of the teachers for the
students (most of the time) and the attention and care we were given. I
especially remember the Christmas program in the community hall (gym), with
first the manger scene. We had a little play about it. I remember being the
angel once. I still remember that speech. Everyone got to play a part if
possible, and rotate it. We sang religious Christmas songs. Then we sang
popular Christmas songs. It didn't hurt, blending the two together that
way. At the end, one of the Bates' dads would come into the gymnasium
dressed like Santa,
bringing those red net stockings that held candy, giving one to everybody.
Winters were cold around there, but the
community was warm. We would go home to our house where we got T.V. on two
stations via a television antenna. If the picture was too snowy, we
suggested to our father that he would climb on the roof and turn the antenna
until the picture got better.
I did a lot of hiking around where I lived
and loved Clear Creek, with its little baby rainbow trout. I found a bog
where "spring peepers" lived. My sister and I would creep over there in the
spring, in the evening, listen to the peepers -- little tree frogs.
If they heard any noise, they would all shut up. Slowly then they would
peep, till' all were a chorus again.
I also found a mesmerizing beaver dam,
watching beavers falling trees. Surprisingly, I found a deer trail that led
me to the road that went to Bates so I would walk around quite a distance to
get there. The woods were beautiful, and the air was clean.
I remember where we lived; our house always
got some black ice on the stairs to our front porch during the winter's bad
weather. My sister and I would be dressed for school and come marching out
of the front door with our books and lunch boxes; take one step on the
stairs, and fall backwards and slide into the snow bank. Of course this
knocked all the stuff out of the lunchbox! Then we would crawl around and
look down the street and see John Quisenberry come out of his house, slip on
the steps and slide into the snow bank too. So Funny!
I remember Mister Bolen and the school bus
taking the 9-12th graders over Dixie Pass to school at Prairie City. The
bus was always warmed up good before kids got in it. We were a happy bunch
and often would sing together. I remember the road so clearly that I even
sometimes dream of it.
Freshmen were hazed at Prairie City and I
remember wearing long johns and a bathing suit. The Freshmen had to do
whatever the Seniors wanted. Finally we got that over with and then we were
launched into high school. It was bliss. I was a Panther. I wrote a
newspaper column: "The Panther Purr." Great days - such precious
memories.
Hello to classmates; bless you all!
Linda (Gjertson) Mathison
Email:
lmathisn@netzero.net
Duane Flower:
07-07-07: I was surprised to find this Bates-Austin site on
the internet and recognize quite a few names from the stories contained
within.
During the time I lived in Bates I was known as Duane
Rood, or "Little Rood," since I had an older brother, Richard.
We moved to Bates in 1956. I have lived in small
logging towns all over eastern Oregon, and this one appeared no different,
other than being a little more remote. My folks worked for Henry Ricco, who
owned about a four thousand acre summer ranch, of which about 700 - 800
acres were irrigatable. During the summer months, Henry ran about 400 -
500 cows and calves on this acreage. Al Rood, my step-dad -- his job was to
irrigate the meadows from one of four main ditches which were fed from the
Middle Fork of the John Day river and ran down both sides of the valley. I
spent many hours walking those ditches plugging up squirrel holes. During
the winter months, the livestock was trucked down to Prairie City to Henry's
main ranch. My step-dad would drive down there each day to help feed.
Once I got to know the kids in Bates, I really enjoyed
living in this area. We lived in what was called the "Old Austin House."
At one time, back in the late 1800's, it was a hotel and stagecoach stop.
Henry bulldozed down most of the "hotel" wing and made it a single family
residence.
We found several postcards in the old and original
roll top desk that showed a stagecoach loaded with passengers and their
luggage out in front. Two books (volumes) of the hotel register were still
in this desk, and my mom, Norma Rood, had sorted out the ones she could read
and found almost every country in the world represented. Henry didn’t
care about this kind of stuff so Mom donated it to the museum in Prairie
City. I don’t remember the dates included in these old registers.
Other out-buildings were the woodshed; and old log
structure that appears in many ghost town books; the garage and work shop,
which at one time was the Austin store; and the railroad crew house, a
two-story, eight room structure out behind our house. Down the road a
little bit was the barn, a rather large one that has stood the test of time
and still stands.
Our house was about a mile out of the town of Bates,
and I think I walked and biked that road way too many times. We did not
have TV and I would go down to Bates to visit friends that did have TV. I
probably wore out my welcome more that once, but nothing was ever said. One
night after watching a rather scary movie, I was walking home and looking
out for whatever was out there. I started jogging to shorten the period of
danger. As I jogged by some cows, they spooked and took off at a run.
Not realizing what was happening, I kicked it into high gear and made record
time to home.
I went to the eight grade in Bates. As many others
have mentioned, I too enjoyed the lessons taught by Mr. Arthur
Cardwell, although at the time I probably didn’t realize it. Especially the
time I was with a group of other kids who must of thought soaping the school
house windows would be fun. Well, Mr. Cardwell was inside the building with
a flashlight and I thought it was just a reflection of a light held by one
of the other kids. WRONG! The next day when we were cleaning all of the
windows of the school, we decided how wrong we were!
Mr. Cardwell was a very positive influence on my
life. I attended all four years of high school in Prairie City and will
always remember the many times we were bussed over the Dixie Pass.
Growing up in a small town like this, one enjoys many
freedoms that I suppose other kids in larger towns would never know. My
folks never worried when I took off fishing most of the day. I always
brought home a mess of trout, albeit small ones. From many borrowed and old
forgotten bikes, I was always able to make my transportation. The hardest
part about putting together a bike was getting the tires, tubes, and the
gooseneck bolt for the handle bars. My folks didn’t have any extra money
for such stuff, and I had to hunt around for what I could find.
Another nice memory of my time at Bates was to hunt.
You only had to step across the back lawn fence and you were likely to see
deer. Maybe a little out of season, but success was a little better then.
I played sports in high school and remember riding the
athletic bus from Prairie City to Bates. The bus driver, who was usually
just another student that live in Prairie City, was eager to get back home
and would just drop us all off at Bates and I had to walk the mile to my
house. It was not too bad in fall and spring, but ohhhh ... those cold
winter months. It was damn cold at times, but I was not about to give up
basketball. I graduated from Prairie City High in 1961.
Since we always had horses at the ranch, we would often
ride down into Bates to pickup the mail or get a few groceries at Leishman's
grocery store. Back then we could just sign our name to a running ledger
for groceries needed and then once a month on payday, pay off the tab we had
run up. I had a job for a short time delivering newspapers around Bates. I
would always pickup my papers in the back of Leishman's store and then make
the rounds, probably about 30 or 40 customers. Well, the boxes of candy
bars were also kept in the this back room. I was tempted, and one day when
no one was about, I took a box of 24 Hershey bars with nuts and stuck them
in my newspaper bag. I had to finished them off before I got home. I was
one sick puppy by the time I got home. It was a lesson learned the hard
way.
I am glad that I had the opportunity to grow up in a
small town like this. There were many things we missed that we didn’t even
know we were missing, but we had a life style that was envied by many. I
know I sure look back at all of the small towns that we lived in, and
wouldn't trade those experiences for anything. We made our own fun back
then. I am thinking of so many other stories and exciting times that I
could tell about. Maybe later in another e-mail.
Thanks,
Duane Flower
4355 Mustang Dr
Mick L.
Watterson: 06-06-07: I just read your post, Leonard.
Excellent! Sure brought back some memories…..like the 25 cent haircut at
Art & Louise’s row house. I remember the sparsely furnished house, the
school clock that continually ticked in the kitchen, and the sour dough
crock that sat next to the sink on the kitchen counter. Moreover, and for
some odd reason, I remember the smell of sauerkraut and Louise sweeping the
floor with an old bristle broom. Lastly, I certainly remember Art’s brown
suspenders. Art was into suspenders long before Larry King.
Leonard Cardwell:
05-22-07: Email:
lenc@oregontrail.net
As I begin to write a few
chapters in this continuing Book of Bates/Austin, I would be remiss if I
didn't pay tribute to my father, Art Cardwell. I am
proud to say that I feel no one was more respected in our years
there than "Mr. Cardwell."
Dad and my mother, Louise, first
came to the area in September 1925, from Long Creek. Dad had
been asked to become the principal at the school as no one could
keep order. He taught 6th, 7th and 8th grades. His biggest
challenge, as he told me, was that some of the 8th grade boys
were big enough to whip the teacher. He told me it didn't take
long to be challenged and "The War" was on. It was short lived
as he was a bull of a man and could out run and catch them
with his strap as needed.
Things settled down; however, for some
reason, something happened and he quit the school in 1935 (mid-year)
and moved back to Long Creek. He taught school in Fox,
Oregon, halfway through 1935 and then through 1936. In 1937
he moved back to Austin.
He and Mother lived in an addition on the old school for
some time. I was born that year in November and began my life
with them at the old Austin School. Dad taught in Bates/Austin
until 1946, when he was hired to be the principal at John Day. After this one year he was asked to return to Austin. We moved to
a row house at Bates, never moving again.
Dad continued to
teach students until he retired in 1963. He said that the third
generation of some families had started and it was time to
go. The folks moved to the Woodburn Senior Estates in Woodburn,
Oregon where they lived until mother's death. Dad had lost
his sight, so he moved in with us until he passed away.
A fond
memory was that I was able to take him back to two Bates/Austin
Reunions held at Deerhorn Campground. What an awesome sight to see so many
of his students lined up to shake his hand. He couldn't see
them, however, but at the sound of their voice and a word or to
about them, he knew them. He had a story to tell each one.
Later when we were alone, he would ask me about some of them,
wondering what they looked like. He would say " They all were
GOOD kids," and he was proud of them all and their families.
I will leave this Chapter with a article he
wrote after he left Bates:
"A Toast" out of the gracious
hands of time,
we are about to begin another year.
Each of us
from day to day, will write upon it's pages clear.
God
grant that we may kinder be,
speak less in shame and more in praise;
And by the splendor of our lives,
make it a year of happy
days.
To be continued ...
Norm Rasmussen:
02-26-07: Been slow getting responses from others so I thought
I'd share another "Bates Story."
I receive an email from my son's wife, Ellen, yesterday.
Brian and Ellen Rasmussen live in Chicago, Illinois with our three grandsons, William,
Gabriel, & Collin. It read:
Hey everyone!
I just wanted to share a small part of my day with you. Sometimes while
doing work around the house I end up not being in exactly the same place
as one or all of our children; today that means Colin. I was upstairs
quickly doing something while he was downstairs watching a favorite
show. Perfectly fine! It was just for a minute …. When I returned I
found that my sweet son had raided the pantry, a favorite pastime of his
even while I am standing right there. I should have known! In his
mouth and all over the floor and couch were dozens of chocolate covered
coffee beans. The package was emptied and tossed on the floor. As soon
as he saw me he ran away, realizing his error. I have no idea how many
he actually ate, but I am wondering if he will be able to take a nap
this afternoon! Have a great day! -- Ellen
I wrote Ellen
back this reply, which is my "Bates Story:"
When
I was about five years old, a friend (whose name I've forgotten
unfortunately) and I stole a bunch of Ex-Lax out of someone's car.
We just thought it was chocolate; didn't have a CLUE! For whatever
reason (it probably was GOD protecting us) ... we didn't swallow any
of the "candy." I can't tell you why we didn't; we just didn't.
BUT ... we would chew it some, then spit it out, leaving a trail
like Hansome and Gristle (sp?) with their bread crumbs.
Somehow we got wind that much of the entire TOWN was out looking for
us and we were certain we were in BIG TROUBLE for stealing someone's
candy with so many people looking for us!
So
... we hid under my house. Under our house was nothing but
darkness, dirt, bugs - mostly spiders - and of course, goblins. We
figured no one would come looking for us under THERE!
By
meticulously following out "chocolate drop" trail, they found our
hideout. However, we were so scared that we were going to be
hung on the gallows at high noon that we would not come out, no
matter how much coaxing came from them.
What
was too funny is that they were so worried about he and I dying
(from the "runs" I'm assuming!) that they had the entire SCHOOL out on
a manhunt for us as well as every available adult! With that big of
a swarm, we were convinced that would probably even string us up by
the FEET on the gallows at high noon, showing no mercy!
They
kept yelling under the house that they were only concerned about our
safety, and we KNEW they had to be lying once they tried that ploy.
I
don't remember now how they managed to talk us out of there:
probably was getting near supper time and we hadn't eaten since
breakfast. That is an eternity for a young boy, right?!
So
... this little story is what prompted me to write what I wrote to
you yesterday, Ellen. Keep the laxatives and the chocolate
coffee beans locked up! --
Norm
If there are any class reunions
planned at Prairie City, would someone please send details, so they can be
posted here? Thanks!
In recent communication with Mick Watterson, he brought
up something that I think should be posted here. Why isn't there some
sort of memorial marker - sign - SOMETHING ... that lets people know where
Bates used to be? Maybe the Country or State would put up
some sort of memorial marker - sign; etc., -- if someone would take it upon
themselves to contact the proper officials.
Here is a newspaper Bates-related article that lends
itself strongly to what Mick addresses:
http://www.bakercityherald.com/news/story.cfm?story_no=4825
-- Norm R.
Mick L. Watterson: 12-21-06:
Below is an abbreviated list of my memories of
Bates. I left Bates in the Fall of 1965.
- I remember the smell of
Ponderosa Pine. I especially remember the popping sound of lumber as it was
being stacked at the Green chain. You could hear the popping sound from the
Bates store.
- The Bates store was
special; where else could you find a beer hall, butcher shop, post office
and general merchandise under one roof? Where else would you find a
proprietor as fair and nice as Carl Leishman?
- How about the winters.
I remember the snow caves, twenty below mornings and the bus ride to high
school in Prairie City. Poor old bus didn’t warn up until we arrived at the
Golden West Motel stop.
- I remember paydays. The
population dropped dramatically in Bates as hard-working Bates folks took
their kids and funds and headed to the big cities of Baker and John Day.
- I remember the Bates
girls…..very pretty, very smart, and mostly intolerant of those rowdy Bates
boys.
- The Bates school and Art
Cardwell. You were going to learn whether you wanted to or not. I remember
Art making me sit under the school clock in the hallway one afternoon for
throwing a spit ball at Carol Reid. I think all the boys in Bates had a
crush on Carol at one time or another.
- Who can forget the Bates
Community Hall? I remember the grade school dances, ham feeds, Christmas
concerts and basketball games. And who can forget when our parents would go
to the New Years dance at the Bates Hall. I consider it prudent not to go
into detail here. Suffice to say that some friendships suffered as a result
of the gala festivities.
- I remember hunting
season in October. I loved the fresh deer steaks….deer steaks with Mom’s
brown gravy and pancakes. I can still taste the Elk roast in November.
These are just a few of my memories
of Bates. I’ll always remember the people…people who taught me honesty,
friendship, and the value of hard work.
Mick's email is:
Mick.L.WATTERSON@odot.state.or.us
Norm Rasmussen -
November 2006: My wife and I made a spontaneous visit to Grant
Country to attend the funeral of my brother-in-law, Jerry Cheadle.
Regrettably, there were many friends I was not able to visit with during our
stay, mainly because I wanted to spend as much time as I could with my father,
Ray Rasmussen, after the funeral. At his age of 102, there won't be many times left to do so.
However, I did somehow manage to catch the spirit of adventure that blows
through Grant County at some of the strangest times, and if you are interested
in reading about my delightful little hike into Slide Lake during an
early November snowstorm,
you can click on the link.
While out there, I was able to visit with Chet and Carol
Johns a short while, who are still living in Bates. Chet is 91, and
Carol is 87, I believe. Two of the finest people I have ever met.
(Can anyone tell us if it is THIS couple Dave Connolly writes about in his Vinegar
Hill encounter?) I was on my way over to Baker to see if I could find
Gary Johns, their son, to see if he would grant me permission to publish
Sonja's book here on the Internet, and it so happened that Gary popped in only
minutes after I arrived there. What a delightful surprise! He was
on his way over to Prairie.
Lee Siegrist: 05-08-2006:
We never met, but I knew your brother Dale; he was a couple of years
older than myself. The story about your hunting trips with your father
brought back a ton of memories from Bates. My family moved there in 1962.
I was in the second grade. I remember the Cardwell Elementary School just
like it was yesterday. My daughters actually attended the same school
building after it was moved to Prairie City behind the High School.
Thanks for posting these stories on the internet, and God bless.
Chester Willis (Brosig):
1-21-2006:
Hello Norman! My name is Chester (Chet)
Willis. I used the last name of my step dad, (Brosig) while I lived in
Bates. I was one year ahead of you in school. I read with interest your
story on the Internet of hunting with your dad in 1957. (Tribute To A
Hunter). I attended the Bates reunion this last summer (2005) and
visited some with your dad and your older brother Floyd.
I too got my 50-cent haircuts from Mr.
Cardwell. Yes, he was exceptional. When he left the room, Tip Frazier and
I would grab yardsticks and sword fight and somehow he always knew. I also
visited Mr. Cardwell in his late years at Leonard Cardwell’s in Woodburn.
The man remembered many he had taught over the years and there were many
who looked him up long after school. What an impression he left on all of
us. I was in the 8th grade class that went to Prairie City so I only had the
opportunity to learn from him just one year.
I really enjoyed the 2005 reunion,
although the only one there that I ran around with some was Gunther Clark.
Charlie Workman still lives there but didn't come down to the reunion,
although his sister GeorgeAnne did. I did visit Charlie at his home.
I live in Shedd, Oregon, which is 15
miles south of Albany, so I have been back to Bates many times and have kept
contact with Charlie all along. My cousin, Roger Derrick, who has
always lived in Unity, works with Charlie at the highway department and I
visit
him also.
You remember Raymond Brooks. I used to
run around with Raymond and Jim Combs a lot when I lived at Bates. I
thought you went hunting with us once with Billy Campbell. Bill used to
drive over a lot and we would either take his car or Jim's. One of them (I
don’t remember which one) had no brakes and we would run into a bank to slow
it down. The good Lord had to be watching down on us in those days because
I have no idea how we survived.
I remember once Jim talked me into
trading rifles and after just a few minutes I realized why.
Jim's rifle was a 30-40 Craig and was extremely heavy. My rifle was a
30-30 Marlin - much lighter!
As for me, my folks moved from Bates just
before my senior year of high school and would not allow me to stay with the
Workman’s to finish school.
I never fit in at Santiam in Mill City.
They refereed to me as the hillbilly, although I still don’t know how they
thought they were any better. Like at Bates, most of the kids were children
of loggers and mill workers.
My soul however has never left Eastern
Oregon. As a child we moved back and forth between Unity, Bates, and Prairie
City. That did leave me with and advantage because I went to grade school in
all three places so I knew most of the kids.
I knew most of the people in Bates
because I shared the Oregonian paper route with Charlie Workman. Don Sterling
and Mike Biedesello shared the Oregon Journal.
When we first moved to Bates we lived in
Knuteville between Rod Frazier and Merlin Vasbinder. We later moved down on
the back road by the river next to Larry McGinnis. I used to take care of
Larry's wood and he paid me $5 a week year-round for doing so. I had to get
up early in the morning when it was cold and start the fire so I probably
earned every cent.
I can probably recall about every waking
minute I spent in Bates because it was the greatest place I ever lived. I
got my first gun, a .22 rifle when I was 11. I wrecked Rod Frazier’s
Buick when I was 12, and he still let me drive it after that. I
remember selling shiners to Mr. Bolin for a dollar for a coffee can full.
I have wonderful memories that would take a long book to record …
Chet's email is:
hortonjohnny@msn.com
Norm
Rasmussen: 12-04-05: In recent email dialogue with
Russ Miles, former resident of Bates, he brought up the name of Arthur
Cardwell, and some hilarious memories of Mr. Cardwell came up about his
giving haircuts on the side. I had totally forgotten about Art giving
haircuts, and when Russ mentioned it, it suddenly came back! (There’s hope
for my aging memory after all!). I’m sure story after story could be
told about getting haircuts by Art, so I’ll tell one of my own.
First
off, I have to mention that I was most likely one of Art’s worse “thorns in
the flesh.” I did not enjoy going to grade school all
that much. There were snowshoe rabbits to hunt in the winter, fish to
catch in the spring and summer, and deer and elk to stalk in the fall … and none
of that could be done in school.
As
many former residents of Bates remembers, Art was the principal of the grade school. He was
one strong disciplinarian, and he was physically strong enough to handle any
“rebellious toughy” who dared rebel against his authority.
Because I was the tallest kid in the 6th grade class, I was set
in the very back so other classmates wouldn’t have to try to see over my
head. We were allowed to put together a puzzle on a table in the back of
the room during class breaks, and I loved doing that. To this day, I don’t
know if Art ordered my teacher to sit me near the table the puzzle
pieces were on ... just because he was bored with teaching and needed some
excitement as well ... or things just accidentally worked out that way.
At
different times during the school day I would eye pieces of the puzzle from
my desk. When I saw a piece that I was confident would fit, when the
teacher turned her back to the class, I would reach over as quick as I could
and put the piece of the puzzle where it fit, if it did. On occasion she
would catch me at it, but she was very lenient with me as best as I
remember.
However, she had a “Sergeant-At-Arms” available to her. His name was Art.
Art
had the most quiet walking shoes in the world. Hunters would have paid
thousands to own Art’s shoes, because is soles just didn’t make any
noise when he would peak through the cracked door that separated the 7-8th
grade classroom, where he always taught, and the 5-6th grade
classroom. Art would wait to see me stretching over and putting a
piece of the puzzle in place … then quickly sneak up behind me and grab me
by the shoulders and start shaking the ever- living boredom out of me. I’m
not exaggerating. If you had a loose tooth, it most likely would have
fallen out. Those shakings sometimes triggered California earthquakes, I
declare!
After
a bone-jarring shaking, I
would stay patient for a few days, then temptation would knock and I would
buckle. Puzzles can never be put together quickly enough at recess time.
Time after time, you could feel a 7.9 Bates earthquake on the Art Cardwell
Scale, as Art would catch me, and shake me a little harder than the time
before, to try to get me to behave.
To
this day, I believe I have eyesight behind my head … developed during the 6th
grade. I would wait for that door to open a tiny crack, and then I would be
the best student in the class, eyes glued on the desk or the teacher. It
must have spoiled his moment time and time again, at least I was hoping.
Eventually it became a duel of wits, I think. At times Art would be so
upset at me for continuing to sneak working on that puzzle during class that
I would be set out in the hallway as punishment, desk and all. That was
almost prison in a way, but yet it gave me the opportunity to get out of
class, so that was a huge positive. Anything closer to the outside
schoolhouse door was better than nothing, I figured.
Art
never lost a “duel” that I’m aware of, and he certainly didn’t lose the one
between him and I. Here’s how he won.
I
quit putting pieces of the puzzle together before the end of the school year
in the 6th grade … because something else was happening.
When I would go to his house for a haircut after class, I began to have fear
come upon me that while I was in the barber seat with my back to him, he
might grab hold of my shoulders and start shaking the hair out of my
scalp instead of cutting it.
No
kidding. I started have nightmares about him doing that to me. After those
nightmares, I became almost paranoid that is was going to really happen,
although it never did.
Nevertheless … my fear of Art taking advantage of me in his barber seat was
what caused me to start behaving by the time I graduated from the 6th
grade class.
Years later I was out to Oregon from Michigan to visit my family. I was
visiting my sister, Yvonne, in Salem, and found out that Art was still
alive, and was living not all that far away. I got his son’s phone number,
which happened to be where Art lived, and arrangements were made for me to
go see him, one last time.
When
I saw Art, I almost went into shock. I stood 6”-4” and he didn’t look to be
much more than five and a half feet. He was bent over considerably. I
always held the picture of him in my mind as a giant, which he was a
sturdy man in his prime, and much taller. It had been some 20 years since
I had seen him last.
I
believe Art was in his 80’s at that time. I don’t remember the year –
somewhere in the 1980’s I believe. He was nearly blind, and couldn’t see my
face very clearly.
When
I introduced myself to him, he remembered my name. He was so delighted that
I stopped in. We had usual conversation … he wanting me to give him an
overview of where life had taken me from Bates, and then the
impulse struck me: I wanted to reach up and grab him by the shoulders and
shake the ever-loving tranquility out of him as paybacks!
Just
kidding - though the thought ran through my mind, and when it did, I
impulsively asked him if he remembered the puzzle-shaking episodes, and try
as hard as he could, he said he didn’t.
He
then followed up with, “I don’t believe I ever had one student who was a bad
kid. All of them were good kids that I remember, including you.”
It
was such a blessing to hear him say that. I really believe he meant
it.
Art
also mentioned that he had kept a diary over the years, and would have to go
back and see if he had written anything about shaking people during school.
I never thought to ask him about it then, but I sure would like to read that
diary now. I'll bet it would be a blessing to many.
Art
"impacted" my life greatly ... perhaps me more than many
others.
Russ Miles:
12-3-05: By all means, Norm, feel free to link to the stories
from off my website. If they will bless anyone, great: that's why I took
the time to write them.
I have learned more from the brief history write-up
Sonja wrote that you reprinted at the top about Bates/Austin than I ever
knew. Thanks! I wish I could get a copy of the book she
published, as I know my brother and sister would like one as well.
You may recall my sister Rita's husband, Gene Larkin.
Gene's mother, Della, and her husband, Earl Raines, bought Austin when I was
in high school. I last went there as a senior, as I recall, to stay at their
Austin house to go deer hunting.
That opening weekend, my Dad and Earl Raines and crazy
cousin Jerry, (recently from Tennessee), went up to - I think it was called
"Desolation" - in a Jeep. In route, 57 head of elk crossed the
road right in front of us. I'll never forget it. Dad said he had never, in
all of his life, seen so many bull elk.
When we arrived at the place Dad wanted to hunt, we
each branched out. I got lucky and shot a forked-horn in the heart. He was
running so fast I found him hanging by his antlers in a tree that stopped
him. Dad got a spike too. As I had brought my girlfriend to Austin with me,
much to the appall of my parents who didn't know I was even coming, I
returned to Portland a hero to my girlfriend, and an embarrassment to my
parents. That was the last deer I ever killed.
Other published writings about Bates
- Austin, Oregon you might be interested in reading:
Growing Up
In A Logging Town
Russ Miles (Chapter 1)
Growing Up In A Logging Town
Russ
Miles (Chapter 3)
Tribute To A Hunter
(Story of
Ray Rasmussen)
Reflections On Early Prairie City
By: Inez
Blinn Boggs